We Are Assaulted by a Man Posing as a Christian Woman
Not much more than a century ago, university professors were scoffing at the idea of man flying. The thought seemed ludicrous, but look at what happened since! There are many unbelievable things today. Only a short time ago, if people were told men and women would be undergoing sex changes, most would not have believed it. They would have felt like it was something out of a B-rated sci-fi or horror movie, or the delusional subject matter of mad scientists.
But as strange as transgender surgery and treatment seemed to most only decades ago, we now find it is happening. Men are not only thinking they should have been women and vice versa, they are doing something about it. We have come to an age at the end of the rule of mankind and the prince of darkness on earth where almost anything is possible and anything goes and much of it is not good. We are at the decaying end of the history of mankind. Indeed, the Lord said of these last of the last days:
“For then shall be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world to this time; no, nor ever shall be. And unless those days should be shortened, no flesh would be saved. But for the elect’s sake, those days shall be shortened” (Matthew 24:21-22 MKJV).
This isn’t pessimism speaking. It is realism, based on sure knowledge of God and of the Scriptures, not to mention what we witness all around us. But God be thanked and praised, He will be, and now is, taking over from man, who has had his attempt to guide and sail his own ship to some desirable harbor. Man has miserably failed in a thousand shipwrecks. Of that there can be no doubt to the realist. Meanwhile, we deal with our loss and defeat. Here, I deal with it, by revelation from God.
There were questions in my mind about why people felt they were actually the opposite sex. I acknowledge that petrochemical and other pollution may have a lot to do with it. We are now seeing fish and amphibians, perhaps other species as well, that are born with both male and female reproductive organs. All sorts of bizarre signs are appearing in creation due to man’s tampering with nature (I shudder to think of what will come of man’s experiments with genetic modification). So why wouldn’t it happen with human beings? I think it can and does.
However, I also know there is another cause for someone feeling he is a man imprisoned in a woman’s body, or vice versa, and this is the revelation: It is spiritual deception. The Bible speaks of devils or evil spirits, which deceive, possess, vex, and torment people. The Gospels and the Book of Acts record how thousands of people were possessed and vexed by spirits. I have personally known several such people. There are far more persons with devils than people realize.
People possessed with devils are often diagnosed by the medical profession with some kind of disease treatable only by drugs or surgery. And why not? They stand to name a disease and profit from it. The fact is that people can be miraculously delivered by prayer from these problems, although they must repent and continue in repentance of their sins, if they are to remain clear of demon oppression and possession.
Schizophrenia, split personality, epilepsy, call them what you will – many of these cases are nothing other than tormenting spirits plaguing body, soul, and spirit. Homosexuality, transgenderism, promiscuity, addictions, gluttony, paranoia, various manias and phobias, diseases like arthritis and cancer, conditions like deafness and dumbness, and even emotional vices like hatred and fear can be caused by demonic influences.
People thinking they are of the opposite sex can be the seducing work of demons. Therefore, they don’t need radical surgery, but simple deliverance. The problem is, will the victims believe and consent to the true solution? Are they willing to change their minds and their lifestyles?
We encountered a man on the internet who professed to be a saved Christian, but we found him to be a liar. Truly saved souls are new people in nature, quite different from what they were before salvation. The Scriptures are full of such testimony:
“So that if any one is in Christ, that one is a new creature; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new” (2 Corinthians 5:17 MKJV).
Those who are Christians are born again from above. They have new transformed spiritual natures by virtue of the Spirit of God. John says:
“But as many as received Him, He gave to them authority to become the children of God, to those who believe on His Name, who were born, not of bloods, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but were born of God” (John 1:12-13 MKJV).
Born of God! That’s quite a change! It happened to me and my wife on January 1, 1975. I was a new and changed man for the better from that time forward.
What we didn’t know initially about the man who contacted us was that he was a man. He came as a woman – Margo. He wouldn’t tell us anything about himself, but we eventually discovered he had had a sex change (we don’t know to what extent). When we confronted him on it, he denied it and became angry and verbally abusive, as you’ll see in the correspondence.
A new creature in Christ? We know otherwise, knowing what we have experienced, and knowing the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Himself. The Bible warns of other gospels and other Jesuses. It warns of deceivers, false brothers, and false prophets. It warns true believers to beware. What is real in Christ is dramatically real. The Bible says: “For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision has any strength, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation” (Galatians 6:15 MKJV).
Now this guy, Margo, wasn’t just circumcised. It seems his treatment was much more radical. Yet, try as he might, it didn’t make him a new creature, not on a physical level, and least of all on a spiritual level. When we first started dealing with him, I had the strange, subtle sense I was communicating with a male, but his name was “Margo,” so I thought no more of it.
How did I know? What was it that told me? I don’t believe it was revelation from God, though we have often come to know the otherwise unknowable directly from God in many things, with many people. I think it was that I was simply picking up on somewhat subtle male personality and attitudinal traits in Mr. Margo. By the time our correspondence was coming to a close, Margo was an unmistakable man, a man’s man, full of bullish rage.
We believe this person needs deliverance, but for his body, it may be too late, the damage already done. God can do anything He pleases, however. For all those of you out there who think you should be the opposite sex, think again. It may simply take deliverance from devils. And let none so foolishly believe that one can be a bona fide Biblical born-again believer and Christian while trying to live as a transsexual.
Here is the correspondence we had with “Margo”:
He sent this note to The Path of Truth:
Hi!
It’s our own decision if we choose to believe in the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. It’s always been there for the taking, ever since He did what He did for us all on Calvary.. complete with His dissention into hell and His resurrection and ascension into Heaven. We should immediately jump on the boat and accept Him as our own Lord and Savior.. but, many don’t.
The choice is ours… and we come to Him when WE DECIDE… as it is solely our choice. God doesn’t choose who or even when people will come unto Him and become born-again Christians. He already knows when they will do it… or if or not they will do it…. but, He doesn’t choose any of that. The choice is entirely up to the individual. No one is pre-ordained to become ‘saved’… and no one is pre-elected to spend eternity in hell. Not by God, anyway.
I’ve just only read some of what your site has to offer… and I’m not sure as to exactly what to think at this juncture… but, I promise you that if there is any sort of false anything on your site, I will find it. I am a sole believer in the precious Blood of Jesus Christ covering sins that we commit after our profession of Faith in Him. Not too sure about “Jesus’ Blood IN you” or whatever. Never heard that one.
I’ve noticed that you have some sizable list of those of whom you deem as heretics. I am not aware of every last individual on your list… but, am familiar of several. I’ve always loved Kirk Cameron.. and thought of him as a Bible believing born-again follower of Jesus Christ.
I will tell you that Hell is very real.. and that even though Kirk Cameron’s style of teaching may not jive with yours, that doesn’t make him wrong. We’re all different and have different styles in whatever we do… from getting dressed to teaching the Word of God. Truthfully, the touching on Hell thing can be somewhat effective in getting the attention of those of whom otherwise may not be listening.
I was saved in an Assembly Of God Church @ the age of 7…. and the Hell fire and brimstone preaching played a huge part in my salvation.. in that it really got my attention. Kids are seemingly more impressionable when dealing with things they can better relate.. especially if they’ve ever touched a hot stove.
Love is nice… and the fact that someone loved us so much the He went and became a sacrifice for us is, while wonderful… just not as impressionable on a small child. I think it’s about getting people saved firstly.. then, work out all the details at a later time. Once we are indeed saved.. then, all the other things will come over a span of time… God’s timing.. as our walk with Him becomes closer.
There’s a lot to know… lots of blessings to be had.. and it cannot be taught overnight… and who knows when God is going to call a person home? It’s best that they leave on that journey with salvation and less knowledge.. than the other way around.
I’ve noticed there’s a lot of finger-pointing from certain ‘lime-light’ preachers and evangelists.. as well as common lay-persons in that they stay busy judging and condemning others so badly about whatever sin they’re seemingly “into”.. such as homosexuality, for instance… without evidently realizing the fact that in the eyes of the Lord, there is no degree of sin.. as a “white” lie and murder are all the very same to Him..
and while people are busy ridiculing the homosexual, they’re not married and are having sexual relations with people, themselves. Or perhaps, they are married.. but, have been previously divorced from someone else for reasons other than adultery… which makes them adulterers.. and who marries them, adulterers…. and the tree branches on and on.
Whereas, I feel that those “preachers” should do less of God’s job and more of their own, i.e.. less judgment.. more preaching God’s Divine Plan of Eternal Salvation. If an individual can be an adulterer living in sin… yet, he/she is a born-again Christian… then, someone of whom is homosexual can do the very same. God doesn’t have certain sins that Christ’s Blood covers and other sins that it does not.
And no, I am not a lesbian.. just in case you’re wondering why I chose that particular issue. I chose it because of how the general public looks at it and sees it… many cannot get on board with the understanding of it all.. or choose not to. It’s a great sin to play if one is looking to gain lots of “votes” or the masses on their side in their search and vast hunger for power.. politically.. or monetarily.
Lots of wealthy people give their money to many who stand against certain issues being utilized as scare tactics. Turning the whole country against a small group or whatever. I won’t call any names but, his initials are Dr. James Dobson.. to name one of which uses this sort of undermining tactic to make himself a very wealthy man.. via his “non-profit” organization “Focus On (breaking up) The Family”… in which I find it quite amazing the number of followers he has. Just goes to show us how many foolish individuals there are running around out there.. himself included 🙂
There is only one thing we need to know about making Heaven our eternal resting place… and everything else is about our reward once that time comes.. and about how to live a happy and joyful life in Jesus Christ until that time comes. In other words, “works” has nothing to do with one’s own eternal salvation… but, everything to do with everything else 🙂
Blessings, Margo
And this one:
“Even so, if it does not have works, faith is dead, being by itself. But someone will say, You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith from my works. You believe that there is one God, you do well; even the demons believe and tremble. But will you know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Do you see how faith worked with his works, and from the works faith was made complete? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, ‘Abraham believed God, and it was imputed to him for righteousness, and he was called the friend of God'” (James 2:17-23).
Dear, Sir..
This passage of scripture has nothing to do with ones salvation.. but, just like the scenario given says… if you come upon someone who is hungry and in need of salvation, too… but, you just give them a little sermon and wish them well, sending them on their way…… the “faith” you exercised will go null and void because you didn’t simply follow through with the “works” of buying them a meal.. as you shared the Love of Christ with them. You did not meet their immediate human need.. you just gave them some spiritual food and sent them along.
You cannot properly and accurately interpret God’s Word without the help of the Holy Spirit. One’s intellect can and will only take them just so far where it comes to God and His Word.
I’m thinking the “Gospel” you teach is that of stifling people… making people they must become a complete mindless drone…. with the hopes of working their way into Heaven…. somehow, earning their salvation to prove themselves worthy.
Fact is, when we come to Jesus, we are indeed unworthy… but, as soon as we make a profession of faith… ACCEPTING HIM AS OUR OWN PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR…. at the very moment, we are indeed worthy… in Him…… we are indeed righteous, in Him….. not on our own, like what those of whom seem to think ‘works’ is all about.
Get saved… and you will get the Holy Spirit… and at that time, you will be better able to read scripture and He will allow you to properly and accurately interpret it as He designed it… for us to do.
Billy Graham is fine in his teachings…. the issue I take with him is the fact that he is a Freemason….. if he indeed is. Which would be a conflict of interest…. an oxymoron, as it were 🙂
Margo
Paul’s reply:
Hi Margo,
Where and how do you see us making “drones”? Have you red the testimonies on our site? What “mindless” behavior do you see there? You will need to provide us with some kind of proof for your thesis, because frankly, you behave like a crackpot who has no credibility. You waste our time and your own life by speaking empty and unverified opinion as if you know what you’re talking about.
But we aren’t wasting our time when pointing out your errors, because we speak the Truth that will save you when faith has taken root and you believe.
Nowhere do we preach the wicked anti-Christ notion that you can earn your salvation by works. No wonder you don’t quote us or provide anything other than, “I think.” You are confusing our call for works of faith from those who profess to believe with “salvation by works.” You have the cart in front of the horse, not us. We are only confirming the quote you provided from James, as inspired by the Holy Spirit, which goes on to say:
“You see then how a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. And in the same way, was not Rahab the harlot (innkeeper) also justified by works when she had received the messengers and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also” (James 2:24-26 MKJV).
You are confused, Margo. A man who preaches a sermon about the Lord, but doesn’t take care of the immediate physical needs of his brother, hasn’t been sharing “the Love of Christ,” in any form. All he has been sharing is self-righteous claptrap. He is devoid of true faith and the love of God, and has no wholesome, life-giving spiritual food to give anyone.
“But whoever has this world’s goods and sees his brother having need, and shuts up his bowels from him, how does the love of God dwell in him?” (1 John 3:17 MKJV)
Your interpretation of the Scriptures evidently hasn’t come from the Holy Spirit, but from fallible, corrupt men and your own imagination. You are the one who is walking in her own righteousness, taking the place of Christ and promoting the works of men, the path of the destroyer. You walk in the anti-Christ spirit, lauding the servants of Satan like Billy Graham, and coming against the Lord when He appears in His servants, as you do with us.
Here, in your own words, is the satanic gospel you promote, which puts man on the throne of God by his own doing and choosing:
“The choice is ours… and we come to Him when WE DECIDE… as it is solely our choice.”
Here is the Gospel of Jesus Christ that we preach, which puts the children of faith on the throne of God by His doing:
“No one can come to Me unless the Father Who has sent Me draw him, and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44 MKJV).
“For I am certain of this very thing, that He by Whom the good work was started in you will make it complete till the day of Jesus Christ” (Philippians 1:6 BBE).
“You have not chosen Me, but I have chosen you and ordained you that you should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain; that whatever you shall ask of the Father in My Name, He may give it to you” (John 15:16 MKJV).
In your confusion, you write:
“If an individual can be an adulterer living in sin… yet, he/she is a born-again Christian… then, someone of whom is homosexual can do the very same. God doesn’t have certain sins that Christ’s Blood covers and other sins that it does not.”
Born-again Christians don’t live in sin:
“We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not” (1 John 5:18 KJV).
Born-again Christians aren’t homosexuals:
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor covetous, nor thieves, nor drunkards, nor abusive people, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you! But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 EMTV).
You don’t know what you are talking about. Here’s why – you write:
“I was saved in an Assembly Of God Church @ the age of 7…. and the Hell fire and brimstone preaching played a huge part in my salvation.. in that it really got my attention.”
That wasn’t salvation, Margo. You have never experienced godly repentance or known the Lord. You may have been scared into being a good little girl, but your righteousness is as filthy rags before God, totally unacceptable to Him. You’ve been scared of Hell, but you’ve never known or had the fear of God, to this day. You’re not alive in Christ; you’re dead in your sins.
It’s time you heard these things.
“Margo’s” response:
You know something? You can twist and turn and do whatever it is that you do to complicate the Gospel… but, thats not going to get you anywhere but where those of whom do that go. I don’t know if you’re just plainly ignorant but, have the best of intentions… or if you’ve got some underlying, diabolical agenda in which you’re fully aware of exactly what you’re doing and it isn’t pretty… aka trying to deceive as many people as you possibly can in order for them to parish.
That IS INDEED a plan, you know. There is such a plan to where we have many “Christians” who subtly change Biblical scripture or misinterpret it.. in order to deceive the ignorant and the unsaved.
Please don’t waste your time thinking that I’ve not experienced the true saving grace of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. By your merely assuming that notion.. much less mention it, speaks volumes… in a manner of loudly.
I was just giving you an outline of my past.. where I was raised spiritually… in which, I am fully aware that while 90% of it was good and Biblically sound, I feel that there are aspects that are not as sound as I think it should be.. perhaps, a few denominational “traditions” rooted in certain misinterpretations of God’s Word. But, off of that… and onto YOU. As much as I’d like to share with you some Biblical truths in the interpretation accurate, my guess.. pertaining to your response email to me.. would be that I would be doing what the Bible says for me not to do… CAST PEARLS BEFORE SWINE. But, I will tell you that… being that you’re a grown man, if you are indeed in search of Biblical truths, it’s a first things first ordeal…. you gotta get saved, firstly….. and be earnest in your search for God’s truths… and all these things will be added unto you. It says so in His Word.
I have dealt with another couple of people just like yourself…. one of whom has a site called something in reference to “snake-hunter” or whatever….. and this guy is in just as bad of shape as you seem to be. Perhaps, you all can form a band?
No need to contact me again. I don’t feel like butting heads with anyone… especially the likes of someone of whom I think is either so proud that they cannot take sound Biblical “correction”… or someone of whom is up to no good and it’s all in their own plan in doing their part to corrupt and destroy as many lives as they can before they go unto their ultimate destiny…. along with their master of whom knows his own time is short in that he has been working overtime to deceive… seek, kill and destroy as many as he possibly can before he is cast into the pit.
Best to you…. God Bless (but surely not God-speed).
Margo V. Allen
Victor’s reply:
You’ve received another spirit, Margo, by another gospel, and you worship another Jesus. We are not trying to deceive anyone, nor are we deceived ourselves. We know whereof we speak and by Whom we speak. What you call “grace,” God calls “iniquity.”
You expected a friendly ear when you first wrote us, hoping we would be open to your doctrinal opinions. We would also like to have more friends, but we can’t and don’t embrace people at the cost of their souls. To gain friends instead of setting them on the path of truth and pointing them to the True Lord Jesus Christ through repentance would be a betrayal with a kiss of the One Who loved us and gave Himself for us.
Go your way, Margo, and do your thing. You have nothing but death and hell as companions, with their delusion and destruction. When you’ve finally had more than enough, the Lord will visit you and show you the Way, and then you’ll have the peace that passes understanding, the peace you search for but have never enjoyed. You won’t have it until you stop biting the hand that moves to feed you, and kiss it instead.
Victor
“Margo’s” response:
I expect you to act just how you’re acting. I surely did not expect a “friendly ear”… haha! You couldn’t be more mistaken. There is only but, ONE GOSPEL.. ONE JESUS CHRIST.. ONE HOLY SPIRIT. I am very familiar with GRACE… and have lived unto the umbrella thereof all of my life.. since the age of 7 when I first received Jesus Christ as my own personal Lord and Savior. I am staunch and fervent in my beliefs and in my faith in Jesus Christ. I am not perfect on my own… but, in the eyes of the Lord, I am pure perfection, in Him. He makes me that way.
You’re the ones who are lost. Frankly, I didn’t read past the first couple on lines to your email.. and theres no need to read any further. I have dealt with the likes of yourselves… as well as with Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses… as well as Catholics, Muslims, Buddhists,Hindus and a broad array of others of whom are lost.
You’re confused as can be. Like I stated earlier…. NO NEED TO RESPOND BACK TO ME. YOU’RE NOT INTERESTED IN ANYTHING BUT TWISTING THE TRUTH AND CORRUPTING THE WORD OF GOD.
Go get saved… and be blessed!
Ms. Allen
Victor’s reply:
What a sweet, godly, Christ-like spirit, Ms. Allen!
If I’m not saved, I think I’ll pass (no, I’m sure I will), if it means spending eternity with you and the kind of god you reflect and adamantly represent. I’d much sooner take my chances elsewhere.
Seriously, what you are now is where you’ll be. What kind of prospect is that?
Victor
“Margo’s” response #1:
It’s not a matter of “sweet-godly-Christlike”….. as some seem to not understand that. God has blessed me with versatility… and so, with that having been stated…… WHAT SYLLABLE IN “NO NEED TO WRITE ME BACK”… DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
I contacted y’all to begin with to allow you to know that, even though you may have a list of heretics on your website, YOU ARE EXPLAINING THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT SEEM AS THOUGH IT’S PUTTING THOSE OF WHOM COME TO CHRIST ‘INTO BONDAGE’…. IN LIEU OF DOING WHAT JESUS CAME TO DO TO BEGIN WITH AND THAT WAS TO ‘SET US FREE FROM BONDAGE’…… FREE FROM THE WAGES OF SIN AND SPIRITUAL DEATH. HE DIDN’T SAY WE’D NEVER COMMIT A SIN EVER AGAIN… AS WE WILL. THATS WHY HE CAME TO DIE THREE-FOLD… IN THE FLESH, SPIRIT AND SOUL……. IN OUR PLACE…. SO WE DON’T HAVE TO SUFFER ETERNAL DAMNATION. HE GIVES US THE CHOICE TO EITHER ACCEPT OR REJECT.. GOD’S GIFT OF GRACE.
IF YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE UNDER THE CURSE OF THE LAW, GRACE IS NULL AND VOID TO YOU. IF YOU CHOOSE TO LIVE UNDER GRACE…. YOU ARE DEAD TO THE LAW. WE ARE TO WRITE THE LAWS IN OUR HEARTS AS SOMETHING WE USE AS A ‘GUIDELINE’ IN SO THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO BETTER SEE AND UNDERSTAND OUR OWN “PERFORMANCE”….. BUT, WE WILL INDEED BREAK THEM FROM TIME TO TIME.
WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR OWN SALVATION OTHER THAN TO ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR OWN PERSONAL LORD AND SAVIOR. THE GIFT OF GRACE IS INDEED A GIFT…. LEST ANYONE BOAST. ALL YOUR SO-CALLED OBEDIENCE WILL NOT SAVE YOU. YOU ARE SAVED ONLY BY HAVING COMPLETE AND UNWAVERING BELIEF, FAITH, HOPE AND TRUST IN JESUS CHRIST. IT IS IN HIM AND IN HIM ONLY THAT WE ARE SAVED….. NO OF OURSELVES.
FUNNY THING…. YOU, JUST LIKE THE JEWS, CATHOLICS, MUSLIMS, BUDDHISTS AND HINDUS…… THINK YOUR OWN SALVATION STEMS OR HINGES ON YOUR WORKS AND YOUR OBEDIENCE AND YOUR “WALKING A FINE LINE”…….. AND IT DOESN’T. IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU…. BUT, ABOUT JESUS CHRIST. WHEN YOU SAID “YES” TO JESUS, YOU TURNED IT ALL OVER TO HIM AND YOU’RE ALLOWING HIM TO WORK IN YOU AND CHANGE YOU AS HE DEEMS NECESSARY. HE IS THE POTTER… AND WE ARE THE CLAY. WE DON’T TELL HIM HOW TO DO IT.. AND HE DOESN’T NEED OUR HELP.
THE WAY OF THE CROSS IS MUCH EASIER, REALLY……. WE CAN RELAX OUR SPIRIT AND LEAN ON HIM… ALLOWING HIM TO DO ALL THE WORK. THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS OF US.
BLESSINGS, Margo
“Margo’s” response #2:
And your spirit and attitude are Godly and Christlike… right?.. haha! You couldn’t last an eternity with me… nor could satan, with God. You’ll take your chances? How many times have I heard that very same line for those of whom are not saved. If you had Jesus Christ, sir… you surely would not have said that to me. It’s about having the desire to draw those of whom are lost.. or those YOU MANY DEEM AS LOST closer to the Lord with truth. But, one would have to KNOW THE TRUTH before doing that…. and I’m afraid you don’t qualify.
If you disagree with anything scriptural that I have shared, you plainly are lost. Not because you and your cohorts disagree with me.. but, because you disagree with the Word of God.. because you’ve improperly interpreted the Bible.. making it harder, more complicated than it seems to be to most people, already……. and the reason it seems so difficult, so unattainable…. is of people just like yourself. You make people think that you can follow every last little thing in the Bible to a “T”….. because you’re just so, so very holy…. and that they simply cannot. Somehow you think you’re “elected” to inherit God’s Kingdom…. and you’re nothing more than “nominated” at best…. just like every single individual on the planet. THE GIFT HAS BEEN OFFERED FOR THE TAKING, MY FRIEND…….. AND ALL WE NEED TO DO IS TAKE AND ACCEPT IT IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY HAVE IT.
God doesn’t play “favorites”….. He has no favorite children. He has children of whom are considered “chosen”… ie. the Jews…. but, for them to inherit God’s Kingdom for eternity, they must do exactly like everybody else…. ACCEPT GOD’S GIFT OF GRACE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST. There is no such thing as “pre-destination”… to either Heaven or hell. It’s a matter of choice. Everybody has one… we all have free will to choose.
You’ll take your chances. Lots of people burning in the pit of hell right now who took that as their mantra, also. Set your PRIDEFULNESS aside…… please don’t allow it to get into the way of your attaining true ASSURANCE ofyour own salvation. Thats what it’s about.. having the assurance of our own salvation. With your way, one doesn’t know from on day to the next if their going to Heaven or going to Hell. Is that what you think God wants for us? I’ll assure you… HE DOES NOT.
Margo
Paul’s reply:
Margo, why does the fact that we have been made free in the Lord Jesus Christ make you so angry, shouting at us in capital letters and telling us not to reply, while you write back to us more than once? That’s what the Lord calls hypocrisy. Why don’t you let go of your pride, repent of being a hypocrite, listen to what we have to say, and come out of your lies and the death state you call salvation? Yours is the “salvation” to which we say, “No, thank you; we want no part of it.” Why would we trade being with the Lord in Heaven for being where you are, a hypocrite in Hell, whose heart is far from Him?
You haven’t shown us anything good at all, Margo, only boisterous preaching that mixes the Scriptures up with bitterness and carnal confusion.
Because you refuse to listen, you can’t hear a thing. We aren’t preaching the Law for salvation, but we do preach the Law for the lawless. That is you, a daughter of iniquity who can’t help but sin, ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of the Truth. That’s why you call John and the Holy Spirit liars, when they say:
1 John 3:7-10 MKJV
(7) Little children, let no one deceive you. He who does righteousness is righteous, even as that One is righteous.
(8) He who practices sin is of the Devil, for the Devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was revealed, that He might undo the works of the Devil.
(9) Everyone who has been born of God does not commit sin, because His seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
(10) In this the children of God are revealed, and the children of the Devil: everyone not practicing righteousness is not of God, also he who does not love his brother.
It’s not we who disagree with the Scriptures, but you, as we have shown more than once already. Even when you quote the Scriptures, you do so in perversity, not understanding what the Lord is saying and not applying them properly. We don’t condemn you for being confused, but you, in your belligerence and rowdy refusal to listen or be reasoned with, completely condemn yourself.
You shout: “THATS WHY HE CAME TO DIE THREE-FOLD… IN THE FLESH, SPIRIT AND SOUL…….”
The Lord didn’t come to die in the Spirit. The Spirit is life. He that believes on Him shall never die; how much less does He die!
“For Christ also once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring us to God, indeed being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit” (1 Peter 3:18 MKJV).
You write: “Somehow you think you’re ‘elected’ to inherit God’s Kingdom….”
We don’t think; we know:
“And unless the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh would be saved. But for the elect’s sake, whom He has chosen, He has shortened the days” (Mark 13:20 MKJV).
“Therefore I endure all things for the sake of the elect, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory” (2 Timothy 2:10 MKJV).
“Who shall lay anything to the charge of God’s elect? It is God Who justifies” (Romans 8:33 MKJV).
And you will know it, foolish woman.
“Margo’s” reply #1, in purple in Paul’s letter:
Margo, why does the fact that we have been made free in the Lord Jesus Christ make you so angry, shouting at us in capital letters and telling us not to reply, while you write back to us more than once? That’s what the Lord calls hypocrisy. Why don’t you let go of your pride, repent of being a hypocrite, listen to what we have to say, and come out of your lies and the death state you call salvation? Yours is the “salvation” to which we say, “No, thank you; we want no part of it.” Why would we trade being with the Lord in Heaven for being where you are, a hypocrite in Hell, whose heart is far from Him?
You seem to be twisting what it is that I say to you. I AM THE ONE WHO SAYS JESUS CHRIST MAKES THOSE OF WHOM HAVE COMPLETE BELIEF, FAITH AND TRUST IN HIM FREE. So, if thats what you’re saying to be your belief.. then, we are in accordance.. we agree on that fact. You can surely that it may do lots of things to me.. but, make me angry would not be one of them. I RESENT BEING TOLD THAT I AM IN SOME STATE OF DEATH AND AM NOT SAVED. YOU’RE DARN RIGHT I WILL YELL… THAT SORT OF MESS MAKES ME ANGRY. DID JESUS GO INTO THE TEMPLE AND GENTLY OVER-TURN TABLES AND SPEAK IN A MEALY-MOUTHED VOICE? I walk in boldness before the Lord.. and I am able to speak with boldness and AUTHORITY… simply because I have authority… the authority thats been given to me by my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
I initially wrote you because I saw a lot of flaws in what you’re stating on your website… passing it off as truth. You seem to think it’s not our decision to say “yes” to Jesus Christ… that it’s not our decision to “accept” Him….. and you could not be any more inaccurate. He stands at the door of our hearts an He knocks. Whose decision is it to either open the door and let Him in.. or ignore Him all together? OURS.
You see, at the time when WE MAKE A DECISION FOR Jesus Christ aka “make a profession of faith in” Jesus Christ aka “ask Him to come into our hearts and into our lives and become our Lord and Savior…. cleansing us of our sins (all sins… past, present and future sins) aka REPENTANCE aka becoming SAVED… BORN-AGAIN (this time, of spirit…. the first, being of flesh, water… being PHYSICALLY BORN INTO THIS WORLD)…. we turn toward God (as opposed of “turning away from sin…. as thats all about “US”… too much “ego” on our part)… as when we turn toward God, our back is toward sin. Jesus cleanses us of all our sins.. past sins, present sins… and future sins <as we will sin again…. as we are only human.. and humans sin. YOU DO IT.. I DO IT… WE ALL DO IT…. and to even remotely suggest thats not true, MAKES YOU OUT TO BE SELF-RIGHTEOUS…. AND A LIAR>)….. and He is a VEIL over us… so, when God, the Father looks at and sees us, He sees sinless creatures…. as He is looking through His Son Jesus Christ, who covers our sin in His Precious Blood. Kind of like a “cheese-cloth” over a camera lens….. makes things look better than they truly are or would look should it not be there. We are ALL sinners…. and those of us who are saved.. are saved not on our own doing… but, by the Grace of God, through His Son Jesus Christ… who IS GOD, the Son.
I AM NOT IN HELL….. AND NEITHER ARE YOU (YET)….. AND I AM NEVER GOING TO BE IN HELL.. AS I KNOW THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE…. IN JESUS CHRIST.
You can call me whatever you like… you’ll certainly not have any sort of “monopoly” on that. But, it just doesn’t make it so.. just because you say this or that about me… or about the Word of God….. nor does it make it so just because you THINK this or that about me… or about the Word of God. You see, it’s all about KNOWING…. KNOWING FOR SURE. I know for sure that I am going to Heaven when the Lord calls me Home…. I have THE ASSURANCE of my eternal salvation. God’s Word is like a “road-map to Heaven and everlasting Life. We have to go by what the Word of God says…. not what we THINK… because we are on such an ego-trip that we think we can utilize our own reading skills and definitions of terms and know exactly what the Word of God actually SAYS…. because there are places in the Bible that may “read” one thing.. but, actually “says” another. How do we interpret those scriptures accurately? We must have the Holy Spirit in order to accurately interpret God’s Word. How do we get the Holy Spirit? When we make that decision for Jesus Christ to come into our hearts and into our lives as our own personal Lord and Savior.. repenting of our sins and making Him Lord of our lives… AT THAT VERY MOMENT, THE HOLY SPIRIT ENTERS INTO US.
Let me tell you something, sir…… there is nobody going to tell me anything different. I know exactly what my own shortcomings are. I know what it takes to become a born-again believer and follower of Jesus Christ. I know that if my neck should ever be on some chopping-block and I was told to renounce what I have or else…. I can tell you that I don’t back down. I am nobodies wimp. My head can got right into that bucket… and I will go to my eternal resting place in the comforting arms of MY LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST.
We are not to “live under the curse of the Law”…. AND FOR YOU TO SAY THAT I AM LAWLESS TAKES THE CAKE. I would go to jail for kicking your ASS (the term is in the Bible…. but, I don’t mean ‘donkey”) if you said that to my face. Don’t forget that David was a man after God’s own Heart… and he did things that were despicable. YOU ARE THE HYPOCRITE…. AND YOU’RE SELF-RIGHTEOUS. I wrote your boy back because he was writing me after I’d told him to not do so. I also had forgotten something I wanted to say in an email… hence, 2 in a roll. EVER BEEN HUMAN?
If we choose to live under the curse of the Law… God’s Word says we are to live every single one perfectly… AND EVEN THEN, NO FLESH IS JUSTIFIED. Besides.. it also states that if you choose to live under the Law that GRACE IS NULL AND VOID TO YOU.
It also states that we are to “write the law in our hearts and minds”… having a repentant heart….. but, we are DEAD TO THE LAW…. if we choose to live under Grace. Cannot have both…. and both are a condition of our salvation. We are saved by FAITH in the Lord Jesus Christ…. trusting in Him for ALL.
WORKS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SALVATION… BUT, EVERYTHING TO DO WITH EVERYTHING ELSE.
The RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD is attained at the time we make a profession of faith in Jesus Christ. All of our good deeds, afterward… add to our CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.. aka OUR REWARD.
It also states in the Word of God that IF A MAN DIVORCES HIS WIFE (OR VICE-VERSA) FOR REASONS OTHER THAN ‘FORNICATION’ (ADULTERY?) ..and he remarries, he is an adulterer… and whomever his ex-wife marries is an adulterer… and his ex-wife is an adulterer. And THATS in the New Testament. So, aren’t those of whom are living in an adulterous situation considered to be LIVING IN SIN? Yes!
However, IF A PERSON IS A BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN… who does this very thing, it is indeed COVERED IN THE PRECIOUS BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. It’s not looked at by God as being ‘sin.’
I mentioned this scenario in an earlier email to you…. and I really only just glanced over what you’d writing back… because I knew that I was making a legit point with you.. but, YOU BEING THE PRIDEFUL, SELF-RIGHTEOUS sort of guy you are indeed…. I knew you’d say something asinine… and you did. Very shallow, evasive answers….. rooted in grossly mis-interpreted Scripture.
The whole bottom line is the fact that it matters NOT what any given person’s sins may be, IF THEY’RE SAVED…. IT’S COVERED IN THE BLOOD OF JESUS….. and if they are NOT SAVED, it doesn’t matter how well they’re able to live a “sin-free” life….. they’re still going to HELL. In which, we all know (we all SHOULD know) that it is impossible to live a life of never committing any sin. If you think thats not so, you’re only fooling yourself. If you’re saved, it will be covered in the Blood of Jesus.
Think about this : Would God had done something so great in size and wonder as to Give His Only Begotten Son to the world… to die on a Cross… go to Hell.. and be resurrected if He didn’t know that we were going to sin again?… Or I should say.. IF HE DIDN’T, IN A ROUND-ABOUT WAY EXPECT US TO SIN… OR EXPECT THAT WE MIGHT SIN AGAIN? If His sacrifice was only good until our next sin, what would be the difference in Jesus being the sacrifice and an animal being the sacrifice? JESUS CHRIST IS THE ULTIMATE… ONE AND FOR ALL SACRIFICE….. and those of whom should believe in Him (believe in = have faith and trust in) SHALL NOT PARISH….. BUT, HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.
Now, I am no ANGEL….. contrary to popular belief. And my walk with the Lord hasn’t always been what I know it should be. I am the classic WORK IN PROGRESS…. not perfect on my own…. not righteous on my own…. not worthy on my own….. filthy as rags on my own….. going to hell on my own. BUT, PERFECT IN JESUS CHRIST. RIGHTEOUS IN JESUS CHRIST. WORTHY IN JESUS CHRIST. CLEAN A PURELY DRIVEN SNOW… PRISTINE CLEAN IN JESUS CHRIST. GOING TO HEAVEN…. INHERITING THE KINGDOM OF GOD, IN JESUS CHRIST!
Anything “good” about me…. IS ALL IN JESUS CHRIST. HE MAKES ME WORTHY AND RIGHTEOUS.
And if YOU are righteous and worthy and clean….. AT ALL……. IT’S IN JESUS CHRIST, ONLY! On your own, you’re splitting HELL wide open.
Don’t come at me with all of your shooting my salvation through my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ever again! The SIN I AM IN IS MY TEMPER….. and I know that it’s covered in the Blood…. and I pray about it regularly.
I didn’t read your whole email. No need. You’re confused…. and I can only hope and pray that God gets a hold of you while you’re still salvageable and open up your eyes and heart to Him and allow Him to work in you and in your life for His Glory.
If you choose to keep preaching inaccurate interpretations of God’s Word, you will have no one to blame but yourself.
I may not come off as having the “ideal” Christian demeanor… as the Lord has brought me through a lot in my life and much of it hasn’t been so pretty. When you make others to think should they not walk on a piece of rice-paper or else their salvation is going to be pulled out from under them, you’re discouraging many. God knows me…. where I’ve been…. all the things that make me the person I am. He works with us on our own level. He knows my heart… and my intentions. I try to stay honorable every chance that I may get. Sometimes, I MISS THE MARK. Go figure. At least I can admit my own imperfections that Jesus perfects. I have pride… but, am not prideful. I can take a point should a point be made. I’m surely going to listen to God in all 3 forms.. way before I lend you an ear. I didn’t bother reading but, just a very small part of what you’re spewing on your website and I can have the idea that you are lost. While you have some.. maybe even MOST of the scriptures memorized, your flaw is in the interpretation thereof…. and I’m not so sure it’s entirely a “flaw”…. as it very well may be your fullest of intentions to misdirect and/or deceive. You’ll surely not have that pleasure of success with the likes of myself…. as I am many steps ahead of you.
My dear grandmother told me to not just listen to what she shared with me about the Lord and His ways…. but, to read them for myself in the Holy Bible. I know what the Bible reads… as well as, SAYS pertaining to one’s salvation….. how it is attained. There is NO “maintaining” one’s salvation. However, there is one’s maintaining one’s relationship with God. But, once a person has gotten saved, there is no one who can take that away from them…. and God would not do that. He’s not an “Indian-giver”….. and His GIFT of salvation is just that… A GIFT. What you seem to be missing per myself is the fact that I am talking about ATTAINING SALVATION…… nothing else, really. Like I stated earlier, the difference between the Righteousness of God… and our Crown of Righteousness.
I’ll not deny being bitter over some issues…. especially, these people such as yourself and your so-called “ministries” that teach things contrary to the Word of God. You don’t believe that Hell is indeed a physical place. You don’t believe that the decision to become born-again is our own personal decision….. and with just those two items alone.. speaks volumes the fact that you’re lost and misleading others.
I know what my sins are……. you seem to think you have no sin to be forgiven.
Ms, Allen
ps- I’m sure you’ll write back… so, humor me with the allowance of my know if or not you’ve ever been divorced for reasons other than infidelity and have remarried.
My point would be… your judging others for particular sins…. and where God is concerned, there is NO DEGREE OF SIN…… sin is sin is sin… they’re all the same. And the sins Jesus’ Blood covers…. is ALL SIN. He doesn’t have some His Blood covers and some it doesn’t…. for those of whom have indeed made a profession of faith in Him.
You see, I stumped the “snake-hunter” with this scenario. He didn’t take the point, of course. Lame-brain…. lame-spirit…. and lost.
The ultimate sin is not accepting God’s Gift of Grace in Jesus Christ…. and blaspheming the Holy Spirit, of course.
Remember, the topic is about how to become saved… what it entails… not how to be blessed… or anything to do with what transpires or should transpire post-becoming born-again.
Also, I can SHOW you plenty of good……. but, you gotta have eyes to see.
I am very “charismatic”…. in everything I do. I am a very passionate woman..in all that I believe.. per God and country…. to any/everything I do. Sometimes, you might consider giving someone benefit of doubt. The “ALL-CAPS” thingy… may very well be excitement…. may be some anger… may be my dealing with an IGNORAMUS…. so, that causes frustration. It’s a mix. Don’t sweat the small stuff. Don’t pull any “table-turning” or “side-tracking” techniques. I’ve seen just about everything.. and will not play paddy-cake with you.
I’ve already explained too much, most likely.
mva~
“Margo’s” reply #2:
I probably should not have said to you something to the effect of ‘going to jail for kicking your ass’ because you’re judgmental of me… not knowing 3 things about me.. yet, telling me this and that about my spititual condition. That was surely not Christ-like on my part… and 2 wrongs don’t make a right.
I have read further on your website.. and while you speak a lot of truth per God’s Word… it’s your mis-interpretation in some areas that I find concerning.
God (Jesus) did it all. He paid the price in full… for us. Those of whom accept, have. Those of whom reject, have not.
If you know the Bible as well as you seem to know the Bible.. you know that we are not to complicate the scriptures. We are not to add to.. nor, take away from the written Word.
We are to accept God and the things of Him just as a little child would do. Kind of like how children get all excited in the belief of Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny. We are not buying a house or a car… so, really.. we need not know all the fine details. Just need to know what it takes to become saved… and know we have the assurance of Heaven.. no matter how, when or where we may pass away. All the other things… while very important in living a happy and joyous life in Jesus Christ… will come as we walk with Him… and pray and read His Word.
Thats it, in a nut-shell. It’s nothing to do with us paying any price. We are already bought and paid for is we have indeed made a profession of faith in Jesus Christ.
Blessings, Margo Victoria
ps- We cannot “lose” our salvation. It’s not like “Oooops, where’d my salvation go?” We can make a conscious decision to throw it away.. but, it does have to be a conscious effort to do just that. And frankly, I cannot understand anyone of whom would choose to do that… perhaps, they weren’t really saved in the first place? But, what do I know?
Lucifer didn’t fall from grace. He jumped from grace. He tried to take the place of God and got whipped and trrown from grace… as did 1/3 of the other Sons of God aka Angels.
mva~
Paul’s reply:
For you to remark that you would “go to jail for kicking my ASS” tells me you still wear your big boots, and not high heels. And just as your sexual nature hasn’t changed at its roots, neither has your spiritual, though you insist both have. Each is a manmade makeover.
We have tried to tell you that you don’t believe, not because we want to put you down, but to raise you up. A devil has caused you to believe you were meant to be female. That is how many with your problem are deceived. But your will is neither male nor female, but human, as you put it, and for now, you aren’t at all interested in the righteousness of God. You only want to believe you are covered by it. You want to have your cake and eat it too. For that reason, there’s nothing we can do to save you from perishing, as you have been till now. Sorry.
Paul
“Margo’s” response #1:
Ok.. now you’ve lost me. A devil has caused me to believe that I am female??? Allllll-righty-then!
Actually, I am female… and maybe a devil makes me wanna say things such as what I said about ‘kicking your ass”…. and on my last message to you, I admitted that was not Christ-like…. and while I was intending on humbly apologizing to you about that, it just slipped my mind. So, now I would like to humbly and most sincerely apologize for that bold outburst.
Frankly, I don’t own any boots…. and while I do have a few pair of high-heels, I seldom wear those. Firstly, they do reap havoc on a girl’s feet… and I had much rather wear flats. They’re much more comfortable 🙂
My “spiritual nature” is constantly under construction. If you have an issue with that, sir… take it up with the One who is doing the work, ie. Jesus Christ. As far as my “sexual” nature? You don’t know me… but perhaps, you will believe me (or not… and frankly, I’ll not think twice should you not).. when I share with you that while I have my short-comings, I do allow the Lord to work in me and in my life. I am a middle aged woman and divorced. I do not live a sexually “active” life.. and when I say that, please know that it is not about me.. but, about Him. I used to be quite sexually active.. even after my divorce. I seem to have come to the place and time in my life where I no longer feel the need to be sexually active.. and it has been with the Lord’s help… or perhaps, His doing alone.. that has allowed me to reflect and re-evaluate my life… and come to the conclusion that it would indeed be more pleasing to Him should I same (what is left of) myself should I ever decide to re-marry. I think the chances are slim because marriage takes away from God, my complete and undivided attention.. and I am able to control my sexual urges. Exactly what the Apostle Paul tells us that it would be best if we did not marry.. unless we could not control our sexual urges.. then of course, by all means.. get married. Now, with my attitude, sometimes…. people on the outside, looking in.. have told me that I need to get laid. Perhaps, theres some truth in that notion.. but, whether or not thats the case, I think I will remain in my state of (God given) celibacy, until I am otherwise notified. Again, please don’t think higher of me than I really am… and I sincerely hope you don’t think that I THINK more high of myself than I really am…. as I don’t think I do… and pray to God to never allow me to do such… and to always do what He deems necessary to to for Him to humble me before Him. I sincerely believe that I know my place. Sometimes, I may get a little “side-tracked” pertaining to that.. but, I have come to the utmost in fullest of realizations that I am nothing nor nobody without Him. Any and everything “bad” about me.. I am on my own. Anything ‘good’.. I am because He makes me that way. I am very righteous IN HIM.
Furthermore, YOU ARE NOT WHOM I LOOK TO FOR LEADERSHIP AND GUIDANCE. YOU ARE NOT EQUIPPED TO “SAVE” ANYBODY. NO APOLOGIES NECESSARY, MY LOST FRIEND…. AS I AM INDEED SAVED… HAVE BEEN SINCE THE TENDER AGE OF 7 YEARS. YOU SEE, I CAN CUSS YOU LIKE A SAILOR…. AND I KNOW WHERE I’M GOING AT THE END OF THE DAY….. BUT, YOU.. ON THE OTHER HAND, ARE TELLING ME THAT THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO SAVE ME????? HAHAHAHA! PARDON THE EXPRESSION BUT, DAMN RIGHT THERES NOT.
YOU NEED TO WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. YOU CANNOT SAVE ANYONE FROM ANYTHING. THATS NOT YOUR J.O.B. AND THE SOONER YOU GET A GRASP ON THAT TID-BIT OF REALITY, THE BETTER OFF YOU WILL BE AND ANYONE OF WHOM YOU SUCK INTO YOUR FOLD OF CULT-FOLLOWERS.
YOU’RE NOT IN THE ‘SAVING’ BUSINESS……. AND FAR FROM IT, PAUL. YOU ARE A SELF-RIGHTEOUS INDIVIDUAL WHO NEEDS JESUS CHRIST…… AS WE ALL NEED JESUS… SOME HAVE HIM AND STILL NEED HIM… ALWAYS.
YOU’VE GOT ALL THE RELIGIOUS STUFF DOWN, SORT-OF. BUT, THATS IT.
DON’T YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE INDEED JUSTIFIED BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST? WHAT, DO YOU WANT GOD TO DELVE THAT OUT TO YOU, ALSO? HECK, HE’S ALREADY TAKEN YOUR SINS UPON HIMSELF AND HAS GONE TO HELL AND BACK FOR YOU…. 3-FOLD DEATH, IE. FLESH, SPIRIT, SOUL. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT, EGG IN YOUR BEER? WE HAVE TO “MUSTER” UP OUR OWN FAITH… AND IT’S ALL ABOUT QUALITY THEREOF… AS IT ONLY NEEDS TO BE THE SIZE OF A “MUSTARD’ SEED. our faith is not from god… but, from ourselves.
My issues are anger at satan and his deception of those of whom, like yourself.. complicate the Gospel…. judge others… condemn others…. and the list goes on. YOU GOTTA KNOW SOMETHING BEFORE YOU CAN TEACH IT, PAUL. You misquote the Bible… and/or misinterpret it. You should realize the God’s Word is just only as complex as it is. No more, no less…. therefore, don’t make it more so. I have given you point after Biblical point and you’ve not acknowledged any of them.. much less, give me an “amen”… and some of the things you say are appalling. I’ve mentioned to you about certain scripture pertaining to marriage and divorce and re-marriage… and you’ve looked ove it every bit… because you cannot agree that what I’m telling you is most true… and that would make me look like I know exactly what I’m talking about… and we surely cannot have that, now can we, Paul?
If you don’t write back about what I’ve opened, topically…. don’t waste your time or mine. In fact, you write back with anything other than that, I’m going to block you. Fair enough, Paul? I’ve not suggested that everything you and your cohorts on your site are wrong…. but, theres enough to turn God completely off. And the “object” is to turn Him on 🙂
Blessings, Margo
“Margo’s” response #2:
Now I get it……. YOU’RE A JEW. You’ve accepted Jesus Christ as the Messiah, which makes you a Messianic Jew.. but, you still cannot get out from under the curse of the Law in the Old Testament. You’re in fear that if you don’t follow the Law, that you will parish. Thats really nothing different than those Jews who don’t take Christ. If the right hand don’t get you, the left one will.
You’re going to do this thing God’s Way or not at all. He knows your heart… YOUR BELIEFS… YOUR INTENTIONS. If you believe that strict obedience and adherence to the Law is even a fraction a part of anything to do with your salvation, you’re LOST!
We must trust in NO ONE for our eternal salvation other than that of Jesus Christ. That means, Margo, Paul, Victor…. and anyone else.. do we trust in for our salvation. That takes ALL EGO out of the equation… and puts ALL FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. We are wholly and completely dependent on Him for everything… including (ESPECIALLY) OUR SALVATION. Nothing we do.. other than hear the Gospel and believe and accept it and Jesus Christ.. hinges on our salvation.
Christians have been trying to get that over to the Jews for 1000’s of years….. and they just refuse to believe.
You DO know that the Jew is God’s chosen people, right? Do you know what that means? That means that when the Rapture of the Church takes place… and the dead in Christ is taken up.. and we whom are alive and remain, in Christ… will follow and we shall all meet with Him in the air and be lead into Heaven… and everyone who gets LEFT BEHIND are those of whom refused to believe. There will be approx. 144,000 Jews that will come to know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior at that time…. and those will be saved. And while they will indeed go down as martyrs, they will inherit the Kingdom of God…. they will go to Heaven. And I’m sorry to say that they rest will perish…. just as generations before them have perished…. with the exception of those of whom died in the Great Flood that went to Hell…. but, were all delivered up into Paradise aka Abraham’s Bosom when Jesus Christ died upon the Cross @ Calvary and had descended into the depths of Hell.. took the keys of Hell and Death away from satan… stripping him of ALL AUTHORITY…. preached VICTORY to all the prisoners there… delivering them unto the Bosom of Abraham… and when He resurrected from the Grave and ascended, He lead a train of all those of whom were in Paradise, up into Heaven.. and at that time, HELL TOOK OVER THE LEASE AND ENLARGED HERSELF….. as it was getting mighty crowded having been filled with whom? People who were bad? No. People who were not obedient? Nope. The answer is PEOPLE WHO DID NOT ACCEPT GOD’S GIFT OF GRACE, IN JESUS CHRIST.
Legend : Gift = something GIVEN, not necessarily deserved. Something one cannot or does not work for or in anyway earn.
Grace = UNDESERVED PARDON.
Go with it! It’s your only choice….. if you wanna “go at all” to Heaven.
Margo Victoria
“Margo’s” response #3:
READ IT AND WEEP, DADDY!!!
GALATIANS 2
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of THE LAW, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of THE LAW: for by the works of THE LAW shall no flesh be justified.
19 For I through THE LAW am dead to THE LAW, that I might live unto God.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by THE LAW, then Christ is dead in vain.
GALATIANS 3
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of THE LAW, or by the hearing of faith?
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of THE LAW, or by the hearing of faith?
10 For as many as are of the works of THE LAW are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of THE LAW to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by THE LAW in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And THE LAW is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of THE LAW, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, THE LAW, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of THE LAW, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth THE LAW? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
21 Is THE LAW then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by THE LAW.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under THE LAW, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore THE LAW was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
GALATIANS 4
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under THE LAW,
5 To redeem them that were under THE LAW, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
21 Tell me, ye that desire to be under THE LAW, do ye not hear THE LAW?
GALATIANS 5
4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by THE LAW; ye are fallen from grace.
14 For all THE LAW is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under THE LAW.
GALATIANS 6
2 Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil THE LAW of Christ.
13 For neither they themselves who are circumcised keep THE LAW; but desire to have you circumcised, that they may glory in your flesh.
EPHESIANS 2
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even THE LAW of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making
“Margo’s” response #4:
Paul,
I am so sorry that you were lead to believe that you needed to end you marriage in divorce. If you both were really in love, I’m not sure why you would allow a common man… and human being… talk you into divorcing your wife for any reason… other than that person trying to have COMPLETE CONTROL OVER YOU AND YOUR LIFE.
He’s happily married, yes?
Shame on him….. woe to him!
He’s ignorant and he played on your vast vulnerability and the next thing you know, you’re divorcing the woman you love.. because he and his wife tell you thats something you must do.
Save yourself……. run from this Rusky Ex- Catholic… now cult-leader.
Margo
MATTHEW 15
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the DITCH.
LUKE 6
39 And he spake a parable unto them, Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the DITCH?
“Margo’s” response #5:
Paul’s reply:
Margo, are these your postings?
Margo Victoria Allen
Lewisville, Texas
Is it nature or nurture? From my own experience it HAD to be nature, a congenital condition. I was born in 1958, and the drug “diethylstilbestrol” or DES was given out like candy to women who were prone to miscarriage. I totally believe THAT is why I am TS. That being the case, the government should step up to the plate and MAKE the insurance companies do what is right. We shouldn’t have to make special laws to protect certain groups of people from prejudice. If a person is classified as a HUMAN BEING…then, THAT should suffice!!
I am a Christian.. and I am appalled at some of these so called Christian based organizations that keep talking about “reperative” therapy and such.. pertaining to Transsexual folk and the homosexual community. It’s like they prey on the vulnerability of people.. trying to condemn them or ‘scare’ them into thinking that God is going to send them to hell if they don’t change their ways.
If they knew the truth.. the fact that, once someone becomes a born-again Christian.. they are a child of God.. and ‘He will NEVER leave them or forsake them.’ He ‘will remember their sins no more’… He will put their sins away from Himself.. ‘as far as the east is from the west.’ God offered His Son up as a sacrifice so that we may not parish but have everlasting life. It’s a gift. The ‘gift of Grace’.. and once we accept it.. we can never lose it. In all reality.. there is absolutely no such thing as an “ex- Christian”.. once one becomes a Christian, they are in. There is no such thing as an ‘ex-Transsexual’ either. TS folk are born TS.. it’s not a choice. They want to talk about the ‘nurcher’ concept.. I certainly wasn’t nurchered into feeling the way I have felt since the age of 3 or 4 years. I believe that God can ‘heal’.. and I also believe that He DOES heal. I also believe that He may choose NOT to heal. He didn’t heal everyone in the Bible of all their aliments. He has a different place for each and every one of us.
People like Jerry Leach and others.. may very well are trying to do a good service. But, just because they were mistaken about their being Transsexual.. doesn’t mean that every TS person is mistaken. It’s like, they can’t be a girl.. and don’t want any of us too, either. We are not a ‘cookie cutter’ creation. What may be good for some of us, may not be good for the rest of us. Some do make a mistake where their gender ‘issues’ are concerned. Not always. How cruel can a person be as to condemn others.. especially after they’ve had surgeries and such. To lead them to believe that they’re condemned to hell for eternity for being TS. If these people are as ‘Christian’ as they want to think they are.. and want everyone else to think they are.. then, they know very well what it takes to inherit the Kingdom of God. Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.. PERIOD! To say otherwise is blasphemy.
I really should switch to decaf… ha!
Love, Margo~ xox
“Margo’s” response #1:
TOUCHE`
They are.
Well done, Paul… and quite “slippery” I might add 🙂
“Margo’s” response #2:
So, what was your point in asking me if I wrote those responses pertaining to gender dysphoria?
Paul’s reply:
Mr. Margo,
The difference between our research and yours is that we have found you to be a liar, exposing you against your will, whereas you have only found what liars say about us.
You lie to us, and being a liar, choose to believe liars who defame and slander us, especially when we speak the truth about you. The only reason you would want to believe them is because you are lying to yourself and wish to keep it that way. Here is what Jesus said (and still says) to liars:
“You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it” (John 8:44 MKJV).
Wisdom is justified of her children. We have told you the truth, and those who have wisdom from God will discern who speaks the truth and who doesn’t. Furthermore, where a complete record is lacking at our adversaries’ sites (as with Shaparenko’s), it is available at our site.
We conceal nothing about who we are because we have been made free in Christ, but you are secretive and slippery because you haven’t been made free at all. As we have said, our desire for you is that you be made free, but as long as you demand to sit in God’s seat, having the benefits of God without paying the price of identification with Him, then there is nothing we can do for you.
That you scoff at the notion we can do something for you in Christ, those greater works He promised we would do, shows just how much you err, knowing neither the Scriptures nor the power of God.
You aren’t and can’t be saved by your own faith, whereas we have been saved by Christ’s faith:
“For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God” (Ephesians 2:8 MKJV).
So go your way as you choose, and reap more of the bitter fruits of your faith and independence from God, as apparently you have done in the most gruesome of ways.
Paul
“Margo’s” choice “Christian” concluding statements… #1:
You can stick that “MR” shit up your ass you degenerated ass-biting ASS-HOLE.
THATS NOT RIGHT…… AND YOU ARE A DISRESPECTFUL PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!
NOW CONSIDER YOURSELF BLOCKED.
#2:
JUST SO YOU KNOW YOU JEW-BOY SOB…. I AM A FEMALE. I MAY HAD USED TO BE MALE…. BUT, I CHANGED ALL THAT…. AND IT WAS WITH THE LORD’S HELP.
SO, I DIDN’T LIE TO YOU OR ANYONE.
IT’S NONE OF YOUR FREAKING BUSINESS ABOUT MY PAST. DID YOU TELL EVERYONE THAT YOU WERE BORN WITH A MICRO-PENIS AND UN-DESCENDED TESTES?
DO YOU TELL EVERYBODY THAT YOU’RE A HOMOSEXUAL?
THAT PISSES ME OFF FOR YOU TO REFER TO ME A ‘MR’ YOU ZIONIST TROUBLE-MAKING PIECE OF PIG-SHIT!!!!!
Read some of the effects of transsexuality on men, women, and family members:
“This surgery is absolutely destructive” — sad message from former transgender to warn others
“My Daddy’s Secret” — a painful growing up
Trading My Sorrows: Celebrating the Journey to Wholeness
Trading My Sorrows: The Surgery
Trading My Sorrows: Psychological Disorders