Subject: My Long Hair?
Date: 16.06.2022 11:49
From: Victor Hafichuk
To: TPOT Mail List
This should be interesting. I’d like to ask you all why there hasn’t been a word whispered about my long hair, or has nobody watched the past several videos posted weeks ago? Maybe I should keep my mouth shut and leave well and safe enough alone?
What about the Scripture that goes:
“Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?” (1 Corinthians 11:14 KJV).
What is your understanding of those words by the apostle Paul?
Why the silence? Are there sycophants among you? Is it right for a man to have long hair because Victor has it? And, oh yes, “what is ‘long’?” one may ask in unjustified defense.
And what a day we’re living in where sexes are mingled and people befuddled over gender. What an evil day, indeed! Shouldn’t we be a Light Standard to this confounded and perishing world?
Are there no faultfinders left among us? Come on, speak up!
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Ingrid Benson said:
Good day, Victor.
While we have wondered about your hair getting longer, and have pondered the appearant contradiction between that and the Scripture quoted below, we came to the conclusion that there was a reason for it, and that we would be made aware of it in time.
At first it could have been explained by the Covid barber restrictions, but then that did not make complete sense either because we know that Marilyn is quite capable to trim it for you and has. So we thought further.
Gabriel was courious about it too and asked us about it. We explained that perhaps the Lord had instructed you to leave them long for this time. There are examples in Scriptures of prophets who were told to do things in times of judgments, like Ezekiel, for example.
Ingrid
Joey Tezon said:
Hello, Victor!
I felt inclined to respond, so here it goes.
Yes, I had wondered about your hair in the past, though the last time I saw you was in your video covering the Psalm passage. As I recall, you seem to either wear it up and back, or slicked back out of your face; it didn’t appear to be longer than shoulder length or much longer.
I am aware of 1 Corinthians 11:14.
I also remember you writing something in the past regarding facial hair, I think it was in one of your particles, in which you spoke of what others say regarding facial hair; that if you grow your beard long, people say one thing, if you shave it, they say another… my takeaway from that back then was that it’s about what your motives are that determines whether something like that is permissible, but of course I may be wrong and it was specific to facial hair (I believe). I never thought to question you on it really, though.
Finally, though your hair is long, one could argue it also isn’t “styled” as a woman styles hers in our culture today, so perhaps I took that into account, too.
Just my thoughts—thank you.
Joey
Joey followed up with this:
Victor,
This just came to mind, but also didn’t Sampson have long hair in the Bible, too? And it was when he cut his hair he lost his strength?
Not saying there’s any correlation to your hair and strength.
Joey
Emmanuel Okpanachi said:
On a couple of ‘ThatProphet’ videos on Youtube, your hair was rather long. Just past the neck, I believe. But not very long, to the point that you ought to be taken as feminine? You had it tied up in a ‘ponytail’, and I did wonder, ‘Why is Victor letting his hair grow so long’?
Not to say you were under a Nazarite vow (like John the Baptist?), but maybe it was some kind of vow you were doing. I found the following verse:
‘All the days of his vow of separation, no razor shall touch his head. Until the time is completed for which he separates himself to the Lord, he shall be holy. He shall let the locks of hair of his head grow long.’ (Numbers 6:5)
And then Judges 13:5:
‘For behold, you shall conceive and bear a son. No razor shall come upon his head, for the child shall be a Nazirite to God from the womb, and he shall begin to save Israel from the hand of the Philistines.’
Which is talking about Samson? So surely if no razor touched his hair, it would grow long after some time.
Nathan Boulet said:
Hi Victor,
It seems really timely that you write about this.
I happen to have been researching this verse this past week or so.
I don’t understand why Paul said it.
When I first began to have faith as an adult I had quite long hair.
I cut my long hair after reading that verse.
I do love to study the books of the law in the Old Testament.
Leviticus 19:27 (KJV)
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
It seems to me that this was spoken to all the people of Israel.
Leviticus 19:2 (NIV)
Speak to the entire assembly of Israel and say to them: ‘Be holy because I, the LORD your God, am holy.
Also, I’ve thought of the Nazarene vow. To not cut the hair.
It seems to me like the Israelites and the Nazarenes would have had long hair.
I don’t have understanding about this. That’s simply why I haven’t commented.
Have a nice day
Bradley Matthews said:
Hi Victor,
I don’t consider the following answer that I’m about to write having anything to do with finding any fault with the length of your hair, but I decided to share my thoughts anyway. Read Below !
Firstly, the way I see it, my carnal historical record of thoughts and behavior doesn’t put me in any position to judge the length of your hair and to know for certain why He(The Lord) has you wearing it to this length. My main concern needs to be looking internally as to what’s wrong with myself, not to focus on others. Also, I don’t have His spirit and I’m not one of His chosen elect (Saints) and don’t have the authorization to judge your hair length.
With what I’ve written in the above, I’m not suggesting I didn’t wonder about as to whether or not it was permissible for you to wear long hair according to the scriptures in general or the one you cited from ” 1 Corinthians. 11:14 Does not even nature itself teach you that if man has long hair, it is a shame to him? (MKJV) ” However, I thought that this scripture isn’t necessarily meant to be applied legalistically as a one size fits all application for everyone everywhere at all times through all of history. Unless I’m mistaken, Samson and John the immerser were considered or classified as ” Nazarites ” deemed specifically as such by the Lord both being required to have long hair. They were in a sense married to the Lord having a special commission requiring long hair.
Victor, I might be off base with all of this, but these were my reasons for not mentioning it. I only talked to one person about my thoughts as to why you might be wearing long hair and that was Lori Reneri, telling her the very same thing I wrote in the previous paragraph.. Also, another point to consider as to why the Lord might make hair length the exception in your case. The Lord is no respecter of persons and not obligated to Mankind’s carnal legalistic interpretation of the scriptures.
Nicholas Preston said:
I noticed at the time, but didn’t want to say anything before because of the sinful situation I was in and felt I should just leave it. I’d mostly forgotten about it until you brought it up. I’ve wondered though if there should be something said about it. And yes, that thought of “what is too long?” went through my head.
“What is your understanding of those words by the apostle Paul?”
I’m not sure what is considered long. It doesn’t say. And I don’t know what nature is supposed to teach about it, if we’re talking animals. But humans, yes, it could lead to misidentification. But those who grow it out, do so on purpose with the motive of being misidentified, in order to push their wicked agendas. Doesn’t everything with God come down to motive more than just Law?
Then there’s Samson, who took a Nazarite vow and was allowed to keep his long hair, which gave him power. And I’ve never red of anyone in the Bible shamed for having their hair shoulder length. And I heard John was a ‘wild’ man, with long hair, and wasn’t he a Nazarene?
Did you grow it out on purpose to test us, perhaps? 🙂
Wes Grace said:
Hi Victor,
I’ve certainly noticed your hair and even considered the very scripture you quote, but I didn’t want to ask you about it because I don’t consider myself to be in a position to be finding fault with you. I also figured you had a reason for it or you wouldn’t be wearing it like that.
Wes
Brian McDonald said:
I have to say, Victor, I hadn’t noticed it had gotten so long, but now that you mention it, it’s a disgrace. Get your hair cut.
Brian followed up later with the following:
A follow-up to my first response.
“You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”.
Judges 13:5″
Have you become a Nazirite, Victor?
Judges 13:5 tells us a Nazirite is one who is dedicated to God from the womb. No razor is to touch his head. I know you were not naturally born a Nazirite from human birth but being born again unto the Lord, you’re now His son. You are dedicated to Him now as if from birth, or at least your new spiritual birth.
Then there is this:
6 The Lord said to Moses, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of dedication to the Lord as a Nazirite, 3 they must abstain from wine and other fermented drink and must not drink vinegar made from wine or other fermented drink. They must not drink grape juice or eat grapes or raisins. 4 As long as they remain under their Nazirite vow, they must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, not even the seeds or skins. 5 “‘During the entire period of their Nazirite vow, no razor may be used on their head. They must be holy until the period of their dedication to the Lord is over; they must let their hair grow long. Numbers 6:1-21. NIV.
Some people say that Jesus was a Nazirite but they may be getting that mixed up with Him being a Nazarene, (A person from Nazareth) but I don’t know for sure.
Perhaps God has told you not to cut your hair as a covenant between Him and you for a period of time. Maybe you are making a vow to Him. A dedication to the Lord.
Perhaps I am pushing the boat out a bit too far in an attempt to save my skin for calling you a disgrace and telling you to cut your hair. That was a little jest on my part Victor so please don’t hold it against me.
I was telling the truth though about not noticing the length your hair had grown to. You sometimes had it tied back, which sort of hid the actual length. After you mentioned it in the email, I went back to your last video to see it again, and yes, it is getting rather long.
I suspect that having watched you on videos as your hair grew, it has just sort of grown without anyone paying much attention.
As to what Paul was talking about. I am seeking the Lord’s guidance on this. It doesn’t seem like Paul was speaking in spiritual terms as he mentioned it being a matter of the “nature of things”. Was he was talking about common practice?
That said. In 1 Corinthians 11:10. Paul mentions angels.
“It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels.”
The angels watch over us, don’t they? Would an angel be offended by the sight of a woman praying or prophesying without covering her head (hair)? A woman with no authority over her?
You mentioned the fact that these days “sexes are mingled and people befuddled over gender.” If we are finding it difficult to tell the difference in these evil days, could an angle make the same mistake? Maybe I’m not making any sense. I will pray more about it.
Thank you, Victor, for bringing this to my/our attention. I look forward to what you and others have to say about it.
God be with you, and all at TPOT.
Nicholas Carpenter said:
Hi Victor,
I remember thinking it was getting pretty long about 2 months ago, but it just fell to the wayside of whatever else.
To be blunt, I just didn’t care.
Probably wrong of me, but considering how slow I am to speak up when I do care, am fairly comfortable in the situation I’m in, and understand what I’m about to reprimand or question someone about, it really doesnt surprise me that your long hair went under the radar.
It took me 2 months to get onto Michael Lash for his speeding, and a few weeks for me to get onto a helper for using his phone too much.
And you know my history well enough I think. I’ve been a beurocratic bastard and got onto Lash for something I thought was “clear cut”.
I’m not thinking any of this justifies me and feel like crap though for not saying anything when it first went through my head, if anything just to ask why you’re letting it grow out so long considering that you know the Scriptures and the One who wrote them.
Sorry Victor. Perhaps I’m the sycophant you’re rooting out here.
It’s not very trusting not to be willing to critique or ask potentially negative questions. So, let’s get on with it then, and if I manage to find anymore fault with you or other believers, or anyone else, especially myself, by Gods grace, I’ll ask.
So, to start, what’s this all about? Why grow out your hair, knowing we know the scriptures, and then ask us all about it?
Do you find fault with me for not saying anything sooner?
Is it wrong that I’m kinda frustrated by all this right now? I spend almost all my time dealing with other’s faults or succumbing to my own, and now am I supposed to be on the watch for you?
When was this responsibility foisted on to me? And I mean foisted. I know what I’m getting into now when it comes to judging matters righteously and I just do not care to get into it unless I absolutely have to.
I can’t do it without the Lord. It’s too hard, and I fail so terribly, and even when I succeed, its nerve wracking.
Getting on to helpers, or getting angry or finding fault is horribly stressful.
That’s not pity seeking, it’s just reality. And I’m insane because I stay wanting to get use to the bloody abuse!
What’s wrong with me? I could ride out the rest of the decline by the ocean and fish, learn bushcraft and survive without having to deal with anyone. Do I speak stupidly? I must be.
In the meantime, I also cant escape from a desire for a wife, knowing good well all the pain that means.
I’m insane, clearly.
More than that, I’m a Christian already. Im willingly subjecting myself to persecution, hatred, ostracization, and insane amounts of pain.
Why?
I want a good conscience, and to finally be content.
“Sigh”
I could find fault with you Victor.
But honestly, you may have a command from the Lord I dont know about.
What are you doing, and can I help?
Also, if any of this was out of line….please let me know.
I dont want to be disapproving of the Lord or complaining about Him. Maybe I am, I hope not. I don’t even unjustly want to complain about you, which, perhaps you remember, in all self-pity and godless presumtion, I did.
Please have mercy if so. I honestly dont know how close I am to breaking.
It feels very close.
I honestly just dont know what’s expected of me from you, much less the Lord, except to be honest and myself.
I can say, I’ve done that here, right or wrong.
Wish I’d spoken up about a great many things earlier, but, what can you expect from someone learning not to hate himself?
More, that’s what.
Nicholas
Alan Agnew said:
Hello!
Actually, Lynn and I did talk about your long hair once. It was brief. I thought of you as a Nazarene, I told her, one who lets his hair grow long while doing a special vow.
Indeed, Samson and Samuel let their hair grow long, so there are exceptions to 1 Cor 11:14. It can be okay for you to have long hair too, for similar reasons, and I kept quiet in public because you surely knew of these exceptions and knew you were allowed to have long hair in such cases.
And, yes, Paul’s words are a general principal that men should not grow hair long.
I also considered your hair growth to signify that the Covid panic continues until you cut your hair. Sounded crazy, so I kept quiet, but wondered about why God had you grow it long. It seemed like God had a special purpose in your long hair. I also kept silent because it did not seem important to talk about your hair, or my probably stupid ideas about it.
And I considered it daring, a bad idea, to find fault with you if I had ideas of good reasons for why you grew your hair out.
So, by explaining the exceptions and general principal against long hair for men, that would be a light to the world. An absolute “no long hair on men, ever” would be misleading (well, unless Samuel and Samson and others were wrong).
You don’t need to shut up and leave well enough alone. You know better about these laws, and I think you’re starting a conversation and a teaching moment about them with a strange approach. It’s like you are pretending to be weak and at fault.
Don’t know why others did not talk about your hair in public. Syncophants? Maybe. I don’t know.
Hope that answers you on my side.
Thanks,
Alan
Michael Lash said:
Hello Victor, I’ve noticed that before but I’ve never thought or felt like saying anything about it, my understanding is that the shoulders are the border for men and women, though now I’m thinking I would push that border further in each direction for each gender.
Especially women, I’ve always been amazed how a beautiful girl can become neutral to me if her hair is removed. It doesn’t matter who it is if she’s bald there’s no attraction at all, short hair is the same and when it’s only down to the shoulders it’s still not preferable, elbows would be ideal. I’ve never had the heart to tell any girl that, and have never understood why they would cut their hair, except I think pretty girls do it as self abuse because they are tired of being sexualized.
Anyways I believe I had the thought that you are losing it so are just trying to hold on to what you have left : ) lol. I have to say shorter hair definitely looks better. I had to go recheck the last video, I guess I really didn’t notice, I won’t lie it’s not a great look, even for any man lol, but thanks for the lesson.
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I think guys who try to have any different type of stylish hair under shoulder length look like idiots, with all the wavyness or whatever and what not, doesn’t matter, I use to have that young Justin Bieber hair and don’t like seeing pictures of it.
It never occurred to me there was an issue, even if I had made the connection or thought I don’t think I would have said anything, I am falling short in a far more serious manner so that would probably just be looking at splinters while I have a beam, no room to talk kind of thing.
If I was to find fault with anything it would be to express frustration over how the Lord walked with the disciples three years and that they were with Him day and night learning and I feel like I’m all by myself, I know you both are busy but I don’t have the Lord either. Yet I know why that is so I can’t complain.
Another thing I’ve wondered is if it’s right that neither you or Martin are in our Telegram app, sometimes we are giving each other advice, which seems like babies raising babies, there’s a lack of assurance and authority. I guess the lesson lately has been that we need our own oil anyways though.
Recently I’ve come to the resolution that if I can’t learn to speak up to others at work I might as well give it up, if I can start doing that I think I could do anything. Seems like my cross, I don’t know. Nothing else seems important to me at the moment.
Tony Tan said:
Hi Victor,
Yes i have noticed that before. I also wonder why you would keep a long hair. Personally, I don’t like long hair and think that men with long hair do not look good. However, i believe you have a reason for this. Knowing that you are a man of authority, i did not ask/raise this issue.
Lauren Santiago said:
The Lord bless you Victor.
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The last video I have access to is from 3 months ago posted on YouTube on March 11th.
I assumed you had asked the Lord regarding your hair and were given to grow it by Him. Is this accurate?Lauren
Braden Preston said:
Hey Victor, I got your email.
I can’t speak for why others haven’t noticed, mentioned, or cared, but I remember us talking about it over the phone a few months ago – though I don’t remember who brought the topic up. At least at the time, you said that you didn’t want to go into the barber to have it cut because you preferred to not wear a mask or scarf, or leave it up to a stranger to cut it right. For similar reasons, I ended up learning how to cut my own hair during “covid”.
As for the scriptures, here is how I understand them:
God is the Creator, Who establishes order with purpose and wisdom. He did so with the chain of authority between Christ, man, woman, and Satan. When that order was disobeyed and reversed, death followed. In the same way, God also created only two sexes, for the purpose of serving Him.
He wants His wisdom in creating that order to be recognized, appreciated, and honored. The divisions between the sexes are clearly marked and prominently displayed in Creation as an example to us: as in lions, peacocks, orangutans, etc. The same physical distinction exists with humans. He wanted men to look like males and women to look like females. We are His Creation after all. It’s His decision that matters.
A woman is gifted long hair as a cherished covering, unlike men. It is a blessing from God to her, which is why it is shameful for a woman to shave her head or cut it very short. For her to do so is a purposeful rejection of the gracious gift God gave her for her benefit. Likewise, it is shameful to be deliberately nude when it is not necessary because it also rejects God’s gracious gift of providing clothing to keep us decent in Eden even to this day.
When men took a Nazirite vow, or Samuel, or Samson – they let their hair grow longer. Didn’t that come into conflict with opposing instructions for priests to keep the hair reasonable length? (1 Samuel 1:11) Whether a Nazarite, priest, judge, or prophet, I believe their reason for doing so was what actually mattered. Consecrating their body represented their dedication to God quite publicly and was specifically done to draw attention to the fact that they were different, being separated to God for a special purpose.
In Paul’s case, I see him dealing with the exact opposite spirit. Paul was contending with the Corinthians, who were having serious trouble with sexual immorality – homosexuality and incest being among them. Self-control was not present in their group, so Paul had to reaffirm the basics of the natural order to leave no room for any ambiguity that could lead to temptation among these people. The Corinthians weren’t in a position to be trusted at the time with any form of conscious liberty in Christ, like that which was allowed for the Romans and others.
The spirit behind why you keep your hair longer is what matters. This applies to every man and not just Victor. Are you just being lazy and don’t want to be bothered grooming yourself reasonably? Are you trying to grow it out to fit in better with a rock band and seek that kind of worldy glory? Are you trying to grow your hair out “like Jesus” as some glory-seeking fools do? Are you trying to grow it out so you can demand everyone call you a woman?
No, and all these things are quite obvious by your actions. You keep a beard, wear clothing appropriate for men, do the labor of a man, and do the preaching of a man. You are being what you were created to be. You appreciate the wisdom of God separating the sexes and you make no attempt to purposefully blur those lines or thwart His order. That is the essence of a spirit that represents the Light Standard.
As for the physical. In my understanding of the liberty given, you should keep your hair roughly shoulder length and no longer, lest it could be generally considered long and not short as the scriptures describe. This is unless you have taken a vow before the Lord, or some other reason related to your anointing, though you haven’t announced it. Perhaps it remains your personal preference, but then you must weigh your desires against the Lord’s will to make clear distinctions between male and female.
Those that are confused, deceived, or rebellious about their gender have a heart that seeks after things other than God and His will. Though perhaps serving as a proper example, changes in physical appearance can’t correct issues of the spirit. Until those perishing seek the Kingdom of God with an appreciation of His wisdom, they will continue to try to satisfy their lack in spirit by seeking after changes in the flesh in vain.
Braden
Terri Cabreros said:
Hi Victor
In response to your question, right or wrong:
The first time I saw your hair long in a video, the thought about what the Bible says about men with long hair did cross my mind, but I also know your relationship with the Lord and if it had been a problem to Him, you would know.
In all honesty, I like it…it is always kept neat and tidy and is in no way offensive.
As you have said repeatedly, it is ever about our attitude and motive before the Lord.
Terri
Lynn Farris said:
Hi Victor!
I have, from time to time, wondered about your long hair. I vaguely recall in a phone conversation sometime after the mask mandates were issued, you asked if I knew how to cut hair, and I think it came up because of either a picture of you or a video around that time that I’d seen. I don’t recall the details very well.
So I know that it was at least partly due to circumstances, with the mask mandate and not wanting to have a vaccinated person cutting your hair. It appears that Martin gets his hair cut, but I don’t know anything about where or who. I haven’t wanted to get my hair cut by a vaxxed person, so Lauren cut it once and recently the Lord provided a stylist that isn’t vaxxed.
I know that you have had the stance in the past that men shouldn’t have long hair, based on Scripture. I have been curious as to why you’ve kept yours long, though I haven’t come out and asked. So I’ll ask now, why have you kept your hair long?
Good Sabbath!
Lynn
Thierry Bwuzure said:
Good Sabbath,
At first, I wondered if your long hair was against the will of God. But then I thought they were not long per se.
I’m unsure why and how, but I’ve always pictured the Lord’s hair the way you have it. Years ago, I recalled a young man’s testimony on YouTube that struck me. He described the Lord’s hair attached and going to His neck.
I must confess; I have been a sycophant most of my life, even a men-pleaser. I have seen nothing wrong with your hair’s length though I like it when you have it short.
As you ask here:
“Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? 1 Corinthians 11:14
What is your understanding of those words by the apostle Paul?
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Why the silence? Are there sycophants among you? Is it right for a man to have long hair because Victor has it? And, oh yes, “what is ‘long’?” one may ask in unjustified defense.”
I honestly don’t know what to think. But I would say, long hair for me is when they go beyond the neck, for a man. I might be well erring.
Thank you for allowing us to be corrected on that matter, and learn what Paul meant in that verse. I look forward to your response and hearing what others say on this question.
Thierry
Nicholas Preston said:
I think you should cut it, Victor. I’m guilty of not speaking, if that Scripture is to be taken as it sounds. Why give our enemies a chance to gripe about it? They’re going to, if they haven’t already.
Good Sabbath,
Nicholas
Jennifer Van Egmond said:
Victor,
Good Sabbath.
I asked the Lord to bring clarity and to help me understand the scriptures you mentioned.
As far as your long hair, I did notice that it was quite long the last time that I saw you. I have a tendency to verbalize out loud the obvious. You had mentioned at that time not wanting to wear a mask at the hairdressers. I didn’t think any more of it until today.
Regarding Paul’s words in 1 Corinthians 11:14 is this passage really about ‘hair?’ Is it always a shame for a man to have long hair? My first thought is of the Nazarite vow. In this by instruction from the Lord, those taking the vow were not to cut their hair.
Numbers 6:5 “‘During the entire period of their Nazirite vow, no razor may be used on their head. They must be holy until the period of their dedication to the LORD is over; they must let their hair grow long.
From this I understand there are times, for the sake of dedication, and separation unto the Lord men and women are instructed not to cut their hair. In this case, how can long hair on a man be a shame when done in obedience or direct revelation from the Lord? In the same instance, how would a shaved head be a shame to a woman completing the vow and cutting her hair short for a time? My understanding is that for Samson, Samuel and John the Baptist this vow was lifelong so they all must have had pretty long hair. They may have stood out or even been looked at as shameful in the context of the culture at the time, especially if it was customary for respectable men to have a clean-cut appearance.
Recently, I have seen men wearing make-up, nail polish and dress in ways that make them appear androgenous or effeminate. I have seen mothers cloth their sons in dresses, publicly. I have never considered you looking effeminate with your hair long Victor, nor have I considered you looking disheveled or unkept, it has never even crossed my mind. Does that make me a sycophant? I don’t know. Do I think that it is right for a man to have long hair because Victor does? I learned really quickly attempting to imitate outward appearances without understanding or appreciating context at Harvest Haven was really off putting and not seeking clarification was self-destructive.
My thoughts are that the context and spirit of these passages are about order and authority.
1 Corinthians 11 1 Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ 2 I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the traditions just as I passed them on to you. 3 But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, [a] and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is the same as having her head shaved. 6 For if a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
My understanding in this context is that while men and women both receive direct revelation from the Lord, In Christ, men are directly accountable to the Lord, while women are accountable to their head, usually their father or husband first, or men of God put over them.
Mary conceived by the Spirit of the Lord after she was betrothed to Joseph. Joseph was considering putting Mary away quietly when he was given direct revelation from the Lord that Mary’s claims were indeed true. He didn’t just take Mary’s word, though the fact that he didn’t want to divorce her publicly, maybe he didn’t dismiss her claims entirely. The Lord was over all of it, confirming to Joseph what he has done for Mary.
Why have you grown your hair out long? Masks are currently not an issue at salons? You just recorded what like 3 albums in 3 years, is it a musician thing? Have you made a vow before the Lord? or has the Lord directed you to grow your hair? Were you just curious and wanted to try a new look?
What made you decide not to leave well enough alone? Whatever the reason I am thankful. It helped me to revisit and reconsider some matters about revelation, authority and head covering.
I hope you are well.
Jennifer
Victory Opeolu said:
Good morning sir,
Thank you for bringing this question up sir as it is something I noticed. I think there was another video where I noticed with Sir Martin. First I apologize for not bringing this up. My knowledge and understanding in knowing when to or not speak is not the best yet.
My reluctance in bringing it up came as a result of Numbers 11, after Moses married someone from a different tribe. Miriam and Aaron spoke against Moses and because of this, she was plagued with leprosy. My understanding was that authority was a big part of it, and that it was not Miriam’s place to criticize or correct. After receiving your mail, I went back to study it again and I noticed that it seems their heart was the issue.
Another event that made me reluctant was when Paul corrected Peter (Gal 2: 11-21). Looking at that, it seemed that Paul could do that because he was also an ordained apostle, thus had the authority to do so.
What is the way to go in matters like this sir? How do we correct someone in a place of authority?
Thank you sir.
Kind regards
Victory
Tom Babcock said:
Hi Victor:
By the letter as quoted, this is the case. However, Abraham was to sacrifice his son, Gen 22:1-2, and it proved to be a test, Gen 22:11-13. It is not impossible that He advised you to allow the hair to grow as test, as suggested.
Tom
Beryl Knight said:
Hi Victor, we’ve had no electricity for three days so I couldn’t respond. I’m certainly no faultfinder but just giving my “opinion.” I’ve always quite liked neat, clean, shiny, longish hair on a man. Then again, men in a suit and tie look neat and tidy with short hair – not too short. Just my thoughts.
Thanks Victor
Beryl
Sabine Smit said:
Please forgive me for not having responded earlier. I prayed about your questions several times and have been waiting on the Lord, received something (that you should cut your hair) but wasn’t sure if it was from the Lord, so I waited some more because I didn’t want to be hasty, it has to be from the Lord and not my opinion (which is that I thought it looked good on you, which I didn’t say because I didn’t want to come off as flattering you).
While thinking about your email and asking the Lord, I contemplated some things, among others I wonder what your reasoning was to grow your hair, assuming you did think about the verse and I also wondered/questioned if it is my place as woman to speak up in such a matter (not only in this matter but in general at the forum too) and reading about what you have written about long hair.
The verse did instantly cross my mind when I first saw you with a pony tail, I wondered about it while listening and at the end, the Lord didn’t give me an urgency to say anything.
So I figured if it were a problem, it would be made clear in due time. I should have just asked you about the verse immediately, about how it should be understood. If you went wrong somewhere in this, it would have helped you if I had simply expressed that and I am sorry that I didn’t. I trust in your authority as my elder and as that prophet, which made me wait and let it go by. I have to say I don’ t feel condemned by the Lord in this. And this also has not made me doubt you as that prophet at all. And I felt much joy for Alan and am very thankful what the Lord has given him!
Perhaps I am missing some things, but at the moment this is all I have.
Paul Beiler said:
Hello Victor,
Here are my thoughts;
I had to chuckle when I initially read this email, finding it interesting that this subject would be on your mind so much that you would approach us with the question.
When I first saw you with the hair I had to chuckle a bit, and wondered what made you grow them out. I didn’t think it was a matter of importance, so I never asked you about it.
I thought of Samson and the way God used him with his hair.
Paul
Scott Sandell said:
Hi Victor,
I was unaware of the Scripture 1 Corinthians 11:14.
From what I remember, your hair was growing out and it was being seen on the videos you and Martin were making. Your long hair came up and there was discussion during a filming that you started letting it grow about the time the Covid mess started happening. My initial thought was ” Victor is letting his hair grow for a change”.
A second thought came to me that you usually do things for a purpose and perhaps you were marking the beginning of something. I saw at 1 point the lady in Africa, Beryl had commented on FB that she liked it. Also at some point or another, I have mentioned that to you as well. I liked it and thought it to be a good change for you. I left it at that.
I did not find fault.
Scott
Ronnie Tanner said:
“Does not even nature itself teach you that if man has long hair, it is a shame to him?” (1 Corinthians 11:14).
If nature teaches that “long hair” alone is a shame to a man it reasons that it wouldn’t be a matter of a few inches one way or another. It would be obvious to any believing person, and likely any reasonable person.
The phrase “has long hair” is Strong’s G2863 which means “to wear tresses of hair.” Then G2863 comes from G2865 which says “to tend, i.e. take care of”.
Shameful: vile, perverse, or disgraceful. Something disgusting.
It became clear that it’s referring to feminine hair, not long hair. It’s talking about a man tending to his hair, adorning it as a woman naturally would. Yes, length can, and is often a part of it, but not in and of itself.
I’m sure everyone has seen men with long hair and you aren’t struck with an uneasy feminine impression. On the other hand, there are men with short or medium length hair, that unpleasantly come across as feminine, having what could be described as the “glory of a woman.” It’s an obvious and unsightly thing.
Would God have commanded Samson or Samuel to never cut their hair as a mark of consecration if it were perverse and against nature, simply because of its length? Maybe out of the ordinary, yes, but that’s not the same as it being shameful, or “vile and disgraceful” as the word is defined.
So, as is often the case it’s neither one thing or another, short or long. It’s the spirit of a matter that counts. And ultimately, we need understanding from the Lord. It’s not in a concordance, or definitions, though these things can be useful.
Victor followed up with this:
Who says there is no God?
COINCIDENTAL ELEMENTS OF THE LONG HAIR EVENT
I share with you all the very interesting elements gathering and converging concerning this hair issue. You may have more that has come to you and which you can share with us. Some timing and detail may err, but the import of the event is accurate.
Somewhat chronologically:
1. Rene and the ponytail: After the Moon River Residential Association meeting Wednesday, April 27th, 2018, Rene Barendregt remarked about my having a ponytail (I didn’t have one at the time nor ever had one). I thought it was a curious statement. Marilyn and I wondered, “Where’s he getting this?”
On Monday, May 7, 2018, at Moon River, after the General Aqua Luna meeting, Rene again made a playful comment about my having a ponytail. Strange! What’s going on?
On May 10 came my photo album in the mail from my mother’s estate with pictures of how long my hair was in my young days. Quite the coincidence, spanning many years.
It was days later when I took the photo album to Rene’s to show him my pictures. Marilyn had asked the color of the robe he saw me wearing in his dream, how long my hair was, and what he thought of it all.
I only asked him how long the hair was. “Was it like this?” I asked as I showed him the picture of my hair, which length was less than shoulder length. “Oh no, it was longer than that; it was down your back,” he said, as he placed his hands behind his hips.
Monday, May 14, 2018. While Rene Barendregt, others, and I worked at the Aqua Luna water pumping station, Rene said more about the dream.
So, I told the men working at the pump house with Rene and me that I had a story for them. I related how 20 years ago, I had asked my mother to send pictures she had of my early past, so I could show Jonathan. He was about 6 or 7 then. She promised she would but never did. In December (2017), she died and then the album shows up right at the time Rene made his remark about my “long” hair.
Rene interjected, “You know why I made that remark about your hair? Recently, I had a dream of you. I saw you walking up and down Moon River checking things out. You had long hair and wore a long robe.”
Wow! That floored me. Why would he dream such a dream of me?
2. The Covid episode comes along, and in March 2020, barber shops and hair salons required clients to wear masks.
3. I stopped cutting my hair in response. I wasn’t the least interested in wearing a mask, to put it mildly.
4. Given the music scene, recording my songs with John Capek, a Nashville personality, I had vain thoughts of “rocker” hair – ponytail/braids like Willie Nelson. My music recording after 40 years or so is the related element here in time with everything else.
We’re talking about coincidences spanning years and decades, even a half-century.
5. Along comes the transgender madness, sexual confusion, and chaos in North America. I was provoked to reconsider my hair length and wonder if I ought not to put as much distance as possible from the decadent scene by a return to short hair of the conventional male style.
6. I knew people were wondering about my hair considering what the Bible had to say about men having long hair, particularly this verse:
“Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him…” (1 Corinthians 11:14 ESV)
While discussing these things, Ronnie received a revelation of the controversial Scripture while reading the Greek in the Strong’s Concordance.
I had not red nor heard of this understanding in my half-century as a believer until now. It’s not about “long.” Otherwise, Nazarites, Samuel, Samson, and likely John the Baptist would be examples of shameful conduct before the Lord. So, what is the truth about men with long hair?
Ronnie received that Paul was addressing the issue of men styling their hair in feminine character and appearance. It suddenly became perfectly obvious to us. A keyword of translation in the Strong’s Greek concordance is “tresses.”
Strong’s G2863: To wear the hair long, allow the hair to grow out. From kome; to wear tresses of hair. it is ἐστιν (estin) Verb – Present Indicative Active …
The issue is not at all about length but sexual character and appearance.
7. Considering I was growing my hair long and nobody peeping a word about it, I brought up this subject of men having long hair and 1 Corinthians 11:14 to our TPOT gathering to get their thoughts. An interesting, diverse response.
While each of these items can be dismissed as insignificant, together they form exceptional, remarkable food for thought. Indeed, such unrelated events becoming relevant together can only declare the awesome power and sovereignty of God and His Work in our presence.
No small potatoes.