Self-Righteous Zeal vs. Love of Truth

From: Jim
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 2:09 PM
To: The Path of Truth
Subject: Jim

So you guys are ok with Mike Bickle? How about Leonard Ravenhill? David Hogan?

From: The Path of Truth
To: Jim
Subject: RE: Jim
Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2016 10:56:20 PM

What makes you say that, Jim?

False Teachers Exposed

“They’re a sorry bunch–pseudo-apostles, lying preachers, crooked workers–posing as Christ’s agents but sham to the core. And no wonder! Satan does it all the time, dressing up as a beautiful angel of light. So it shouldn’t surprise us when his servants masquerade as servants of God. But they’re not getting by with anything. They’ll pay for it in the end” (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 MSG). This list is not meant to be an exhaustive one. What is important is that one learns to discern truth from error.

“Then you shall again see the difference between the righteous and the wicked, between him who serves God, and him who does not serve Him” (Malachi 3:18 MKJV).

What is a false teacher and how does one qualify for this list?

No person rightfully takes upon himself the role of a teacher or any other ministry of God without God’s power and authority. In a world full of teachers, preachers, elders, deacons, speakers, writers, evangelists, pastors, prophets, and apostles, rare are the true ministers representing the Lord Jesus Christ. Many are the false, and very few the true, even as in Noah’s day.

False teachers are those who presume to teach in their own authority (as did the scribes), often in the Name of the Lord, when He has not sent them. Though they have knowledge of Biblical truths, they are, at best, in delusion, presuming to turn others to the Kingdom of God when, in fact, they are building the corrupt kingdoms of men. At worst, they are deliberate charlatans, seeking to deceive, steal, kill, and destroy, using Biblical truths to do so. Though false teachers lead astray, the Biblical truths they teach can lead to Christ those whom God has called and is choosing. The truth quickens those being given the gift of faith. However, faith manifest in the one who receives the truth does not certify as God’s representative the one who speaks some truth. The child of faith who walks in obedience to Christ will soon enough part ways with those who mix truth with error.

This is God’s commandment:

“Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. And I will receive you and I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty” (2 Corinthians 6:17-18 MKJV).

False teachers mix the holy things of God with their carnal thoughts, creating a false form of godliness. They can’t do otherwise, because they haven’t taken up the cross and submitted themselves to Christ’s righteousness. They are still in their sin nature, living unto themselves, teaching doctrines and commandments of men.

And because false teachers haven’t submitted themselves to Christ’s righteousness, they can’t lead others there. A false teacher is one who may speak truth, yet points his hearers in another direction. An example of this would be that of a “Tijuana taxi,” or any predator of tourists who says, “Yes, I know exactly where such-and-such a place is, and I’ll take you there. On the way, I’ll tell you all you want to know about it. Please, get in.”

Guess what? He gets you there after a half-hour drive, but didn’t tell you it was only a block away from where you began with him. Meanwhile he charges you for the time or mileage. And though he filled you in on what the place is all about, what he doesn’t, can’t, and won’t tell you is that you need a membership to enter. He drops you off at the gate, and you find out your trip was for naught.

Isn’t that just like the churches and spiritual leaders one encounters in a multiplicity of places and forms? They have truth, and they may even get you into the wedding feast, but never with a wedding garment.
Therefore, while the truth spoken is to be believed (no matter who speaks it or what affiliation the speaker may have), false teachers are not to be followed. Teachers sent of God are to be followed, as with the example given
by the apostle Paul, who said by the Spirit, “Become followers of me, even as I am of Christ” (1 Corinthians 11:1). A false teacher leads into the emptiness of self-righteousness and death, but a true teacher leads to the fullness of Christ and life.

See also Diabolical Doctrines, The True Marks of a Cult, and Teachings. Indeed, our entire website will help you to forsake the error and to walk in the path of truth.

From: Jim
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:07 PM
To: The Path of Truth
Subject: Re: Jim

So can you give me your list of approved teachers? Yes, the way is narrow, but you guys make it sound as if your ministry has the monopoly on salvation. Sorry, but not so.
If someone had been truly broken over there sin and repented, and turned to Yeshua, they are real. That would certainly include Steve Hill, who is on your list as false. So if you claim one who has repented as the bible says is false, then what are you?

From: Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 7:29 AM
To: ‘Jim’
Cc: ‘Victor Hafichuk’
Subject: Re[3]: Jim

If there was such a list, Jim, what good would it do you since you don’t believe us and the Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of God you’ve been hearing from our mouths?

“We are of God. He who knows God hears us. The one who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:6 MKJV).

Paul and Victor
www.ThePathofTruth.com

From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 9:41 AM
To: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re: Re[3]: Jim

So don’t you think it could be worth praying, to make sure your not way off in error, if you aren’t able to produce a list of any like minded teachers? Hmmm. Not saying you are, but this is a typical marking of a cult. I’m just not willing to hear you, if you can’t produce ANY reputable people your in accountability with. It looks like you just want people submitted to your teachings only. May God give you revelation in this area.

From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 7:04 AM
To: Jim
Cc: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re[5]: Jim

“Concerning the works of men, by the word of Thy lips I have kept me from the paths of the destroyer” (Psalms 17:4 KJV).

“I have come in My Father’s Name, and you do not receive Me. If another shall come in his own name, him you will receive. How can you believe, you who receive honor from one another and do not seek the honor that comes from God only?” (John 5:43-44 MKJV)

To whom were Noah, Moses, Elijah, Daniel, and Jeremiah accountable, Jim? To whom was John the Immerser accountable? After Pentecost, to whom were Peter, John, and Stephen accountable?

To whom are you accountable? A sanhedrin? A board of directors? A superintendent? A group of ungodly pastors who, with all their papers, don’t know their right hand from their left? Some stuffy preacher wise and prudent, from whom the Lord has hidden His Precious Truth?

Are “babes” despised in your eyes? Do you know better than they because you are accountable to someone with a “divinity” degree or doctorate?

And just how accountable are you, Jim, truly? If things didn’t suit you, would you remain because you’re bound to your self-imposed “accountability”? Are you accountable as long as you can approve the teaching and direction of your heads to whom you allegedly submit?

So who’s in charge, after all? The Lord? “God led me out of that church to another. I could see the writing on the wall”? Or is it you truly in charge?

Have your denominational seminaries or Bible schools the right to receive accountability? To whom are you accountable? To God or men? To Jesus Christ or those who take on His Name in vain?

What makes you surmise we haven’t prayed? Because you don’t believe us and because we don’t do things your way? What makes you think Moses spent 40 years in prayer, or any amount of time for that matter, before God met him? God did what He did without Moses’ self-righteous doing, and Moses responded to his calling without error, even with initial reluctance, because God did as He pleased with him. So with us.

“Cult”? What would you know about cults, being part of one yourself, being accountable to presumptuous princes of darkness and self-appointed “Christian” authorities with “papers”? Papers from whom? And to whom are they accountable? How far does that line of accountability go and of what essence is it?

Your prayer, as foolish as its purpose is at this time, was answered decades ago, no thanks to you. We walk by the Spirit of God, by His revelation and express direction and not by carnal presumption as you demand.

See how great your darkness is! But then, what can a child of the works of men see, anyway? You have much to answer for to Jesus Christ, Whom we serve with delight, seeing He has come to judge you and your grievous error.

Victor and Paul
www.ThePathofTruth.com

 

From: Jim
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 1:16 PM
To: The Path of Truth; Victor Hafichuk; Edwin Romero

Paul,

In your response you said…. Since you don’t believe US and the Lord Jesus Christ. Before I could even begin to converse with you, I need some more “us’s”. If you are your only backing as a group, with no others, then you become Jim Jones like.

Edwin, I challenge you to find more Hondurans who believe like this. Or any in Latin America mind you. And they are a great people of simplicity in faith to Yeshua. Jim

From: Jim
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 9:35 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk; Paul Cohen; Edwin Romero
Subject: Re: Re[5]: Jim

Victor,

First, thank you for your willingness to take time to write. To be clear,i never said I was submitted, or that we need to be submitted to people with papers and degrees. On that I’m in agreement. In fact, the most powerful group I was connected to in my walk, was a group of sold out believers who traveled the streets, sometimes living in vans or wherever they could hang their heads. All to live kingdom lives, and to reach those far away. Not that I did, but I was close to them and they were part of my walk.

I have now lived in Latin America for last 10 years or so for most of the year every year. Why, because Yeshua radically changed my life and I can’t hold it inside.

My point is this, can we be in agreement that the Lord has his true servants all over in many camps? I certainly find them all around. And am refreshed by them. My concern, and question to you that I’m trying to reach an answer about is this: do you find true brothers all around outside of your group? Do you find good teachers in other countries and cities( mind you, I’m not saying schooled ones nesecarily) that you appreciate and recommend? Because I’m in agreement that we can receive directly from the Lord through His Word and teaching. But it is clear He also uses 5 fold ministry to build up the body. And I those in the 5 fold need not be schooled in any way formal. They can come from the street or the countryside or whatever. You know the verses about all I mentioning so I need not list.

And I don’t feel comfortable calling someone as one in darkness as you have. Because I don’t know you, as you don’t know me.so how can you say I’m in darkness, when I have only questioned if you could reccomendations good teachers to hear from that are not in your group? That’s it! That’s the only question that I really want you to answer. That doesn’t mean I’m in darkness for asking that question. I’m to be a be a Berean no? Before you would dare listen to someone you would investigate a bit first no?

Thank you so kindly victor

From: Jim
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 12:07 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk; The Path of Truth; Paul Cohen; Edwin Romero
Subject:

Victor,

Didn’t address of who, I’m accountable as you presumptuously went off on me being accountable to people with papers.

When I speak of accountable, I am speaking to the idea of us as believes submitting to one another. We submit to one another, to allow iron to sharpen iron, and to protect us from error, etc. we must allow ourselves to be challenged, and not only from those in our little group.this is humility. Do I trust God could be using another to bring truth to me in areas of darkness? I know that within myself, I don’t see things 100 percent clearly yet. Isn’t that the same with everyone? We must see it this way.that others have something to offer us. If not, we hold our ideas so tightly. That if something was off, I could never be corrected. I’m open to that Victor, are you? You may be. This is not an accusation. I love you as a human being, and imagine would give you a big ol hug if I were to meet you.

And who am I accountable? To many fiery sold out followers of Yeshua all around me. Hardly any of the have a paper.

So, why do you say people are in error and deceived if you don’t know them? Tell me Victor, what is the main error that you are speaking of of all these people you see as false, and what would be the main difference between you and them? This question I would really like the answer to. What is the main difference between your walking in truth, and their walking in truth?

Thank you again Victor for the dialogue, Jim

From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2016 7:09 AM
To: Jim
Cc: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re[8]: Jim

Jim, we at TPOT and those with us are first accountable in terms of authority to God for our thoughts, words, actions, and motives.

As such, in terms of responsibility, we are accountable to every brother and sister in Christ; we are to give and receive to one another as able and required by God.

We are also accountable to our neighbor by obligation in God’s sight, as He wills, according to His Law.

That should clear up the question of accountability, however way you define it.

Can’t I know those I’m talking about, whether negatively or positively, even though I haven’t met them? Aren’t you familiar with the several Scriptures that testify supporting such a possibility and reality, Jim?

Tell me Victor, what is the main error that you are speaking of of all these people you see as false, and what would be the main difference between you and them? This question I would really like the answer to.

I give you the answer, but will you like it?

You seem to be making this a doctrinal issue, which is valid only in part. Doctrinal difference can be significant enough because our doctrine from the Father glorifies Him while mainstream nominal orthodox Christian doctrine demeans and defames Him.

However, the next difference is the core issue, and that is that the teachers we list as false go forth presumptuously preaching as though sent of Him when they’re not sent. They’ve never known the Lord Jesus Christ, nor has He known them. This we know by their doctrine mainly, but also by their spirit, motives, works and origin, in spite of their doctrine. We know them by their fruits as made known to us by God’s grace.

Jim, the reason you don’t discern their fruits or ours is because you’ve never received the Spirit of God, which fruits can only be known by His Spirit. Otherwise, you would know, for the Lord has said His sheep hear His Voice and that His saints “know all things.” That’s how I know you, as expressed here.

You speak of gathering with and submitting to others as protection from error, but what if you’re all in error? Because you and your companions say, “Lord, Lord…” doesn’t mean you’re His or that you’re right. Isn’t that what the Bible says? And just because you and your company know true doctrine doesn’t make you any better off than the Pharisees who also had much true doctrine – and practice.

They assemble, but not by Me,” says the Lord.

You ask a strange question: “What is the main difference between your walking in truth, and their walking in truth?”

I can only say we are walking in Truth and they aren’t walking in Truth. Otherwise, there would be no division or disagreement.

“They are of the world, therefore they speak of the world, and the world hears them. We are of God. He who knows God hears us. The one who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:5-6 MKJV).

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From:
Jim
Sent: August-20-16 9:17 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: Re[8]: Jim

The main problem I have is you guys seem to be deciding who is in or out, based on the way you see their fruit.

Listen, don’t make it harder than Yeshua did for people to come to Him. So what do you say about all the people who you have personally seen live wreckless lives of darkness, then they were ambushed by God (without even searching for Him) , and their whole lives were flipped upside down to the point everyone around them thinks they have lost it, and their fruits change ( some immediately, some more of a process) from bad to good?

I know so many people of whom this has happened to, and surely you too. What would define to you, in one sentence, if they are truly saved or not? If this is not salvation, then what happened? Are you telling me it’s some kind of false conversion? Sorry, don’t believe that. Not if the person has truly repented and left the old life for a new.

Sure, their may be some deception in their doctrine, but it doesn’t negate their obvious true conversion. As you see in their fruits.

My point is, this has happened to many ministers you call false. One being Steve hill. This also happened to Michael brown. Is he also false? If so, is Michael brown teaching that is false, that you are not preaching? Thanks

From: Jim
Sent: August-20-16 11:03 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: Re[8]: Jim

By the way, Of course I see some good in what you are saying. But for you to say I have not received the Spirit of God would be off base. Remember, accountable to God not you you as you seem to make clear. So what would make you say I haven’t? WHAT WOULD [YOU] SAY I have to do now to receive Him? If I have already left all to follow Him, repented, and turned from my evil ways, what is left?

From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:32 AM
To: Jim
Cc: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re[11]: Jim

Jim, you’re left, and that’s the problem – the “first Christian” has to go. Saul of Tarsus was, touching the Law, blameless. You boast, in essence, to have given your body to be burned, yet you preserve yourself, not having the love of God.

Matthew 7:21-23 MKJV
(21)  Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven.
(22)  Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your Name, and through Your Name throw out demons, and through Your Name do many wonderful works?
(23)  And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!

You say:

Listen, don’t make it harder than Yeshua did for people to come to Him.

Can anything be any harder than the Lord Jesus requires?

“If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life shall lose it, and whoever desires to lose his life for My sake shall find it” (Matthew 16:24-25 MKJV).

“You’ve heard it said…but I say to you…”

“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple. And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me, he cannot be My disciple” (Luke 14:26-27 MKJV).

“Unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees….”

“Go in through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in through it. Because narrow is the gate and constricted is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matthew 7:13-14 MKJV).

“If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own. But because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you” (John 15:18-19 MKJV).

“With men these things are impossible, but with God all things are possible….”

You take pleasure in your gods more than in God. Stop lying to yourself, to God and to us. You’re a liar, Jim.

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From: Jim
Sent: August-23-16 9:28 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: Re[11]: Jim

No. Your wrong. Don’t judge those you don’t know. I’m the furthest thing from an easy Grace guy. I’m the guy who believes in repentence preaching. Against the wrong principles of emergent, seeker sensitive, etc.

I was radically saved in the mid- 90s . At the time I was pursuing a to be a professional athlete. The Lord arrested me, and shortly after I left that life, left my girlfriend, left alcohol, left all I could find to leave. I was the guy who if he crossed a cross walk that said “don’t walk” or went over the speed limit by 2 miles an hour, I was repenting and feeling horrible. So don’t speak to me about being easy or of the world.

So I’ll ask you again, on what basis do you call people false who have truly repented, died to self, and turned to Christ?

If you do call them false, then I call on you to check your heart, because that is The Gospel, and you can take nothing from it. And maybe you can’t hear me, because somewhere along the line you became deceived.

You didn’t answer the question. And here lies the answer. You can’t.

My question is, if I’ve forsaken all, repented, and continue to walk in repentence, and have turned to Yeshua, and walk not deliberately in sin, what else are you saying I or anyone else needs to do? Answer it please Victor

What???

From: Jim
Sent: August-23-16 10:16 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Acts 15:19

Look,

Don’t twist what I say to make it look like easy Grace. When I say don’t make it harder than Yeshua, I’m referring to don’t add anything more than Christ requirement. And when we read the Bible and see the big picture of coming to God, it’s true repentance, turning to and believing in Yeshua in a wholehearted way. Paul said don’t make it hard for the Gentiles ( acts 15:19). This is not referring to easy. We know it is difficult to give up all. Yes, is is difficult.we know that. And that not everyone who says Lord, Lord,…… We know this. But the ones who have truly repented and turned to God are not the ones saying Lord , Lord. So how do you know who those are who will say Lord , Lord?

Let me ask you Victor, why are you more valid and genuine than me? We don’t know each other. I don’t know what your life looks like, and you don’t know mine.

Go ahead, tell me what a typical day looks like for Victor. I’d like to know what a genuine follower does and is. I want to hear about your fruits that make you different than me. Let’s hear it. Tell me your testimony, and what your life looks like now.

From: Jim
Sent: August-23-16 11:43 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk; The Path of Truth ; Paul Cohen
Subject: Hopefully the last time

Ok guys,

Hopefully this is the last time I will have to ask you this. I need a list of all the truth teachers that you believe are worthy to receive from. I’ve seen your false list. A false list is easy. I want a long list of good teachers. If you can’t produce this, I will have to write you off. Sorry. But that is a true mark of a group in error. They have become so isolated that they think they are the only ones with truth. If so, I may have to spread the fame of you guys as being dangerous as much as possible. We will see

From: Jim
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:35 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk; Paul Cohen; Edwin Romero
Subject:

Victor,

By the way, I read most of your testimony. And really it doesn’t sound far off from mine. I too thought I was a Christian for many years. Until He ambushed my life and brought me to repentence. Your testimony sounds very legit. If I am willingly to say that of yours, why can’t you respect mine? I too was brought to the end of myself where I hit a wall and was left with nothing more but to cry out to Him.

From: Jim
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:37 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk; Paul Cohen
Subject:

Just curious Paul, as a Jew, what do you think of Dan Juster? Michael Brown? Asher intrater?

From: Jim
Sent: August-24-16 3:41 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: By the way

And by the way, many don’t accept the truth I stand for either. Because I’m not in agreement with the worlds ways and stand opposed to it.

 

From: Victor Hafichuk & Paul Cohen
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:05 AM
To: Jim
Cc: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Wrapping Up with Jim

“For I bear record to them that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they, being ignorant of God’s righteousness and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves to the righteousness of God” (Romans 10:2-3 MKJV).

So I’ll ask you again, on what basis do you call people false who have truly repented, died to self, and turned to Christ?

On no basis do I do that; I don’t do that at all. Like I said, that hasn’t happened with you and that’s why this conflict. I’m not calling you false despite having “truly repented, died to self, and turned to Christ.

You give yourself away time and again, with practically every word that comes from you:

I was the guy who if he crossed a cross walk that said ‘don’t walk’ or went over the speed limit by 2 miles an hour, I was repenting and feeling horrible. So don’t speak to me about being easy or of the world.

I’ve known other such people. It’s all your works and not God’s. You are your own creation, full of self-righteousness. What does the Lord say about that?

“But we are all as the unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as a menstruation cloth. And we all fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away” (Isaiah 64:6 MKJV).

Let me ask you Victor, why are you more valid and genuine than me? We don’t know each other. I don’t know what your life looks like, and you don’t know mine.

You don’t know me because you, being in darkness, don’t have the power to know me. I, on the other hand DO know you, according to the Scriptures you don’t believe though you claim to know the Lord:

1 Corinthians 2:9-16 MKJV
(9)  But as it is written, “Eye has not seen, nor ear heard,” nor has it entered into the heart of man, “the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.”
(10)  But God has revealed them to us by His Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God.
(11)  For who among men knows the things of a man except the spirit of man within him? So also no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.
(12)  But we have not received the spirit of the world, but the Spirit from God, so that we might know the things that are freely given to us by God.
(13)  These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
(14)  But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
(15)  But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged by no one.
(16)  For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ.

The Lord knows you, and being in Him, WE know you, and if you were His you’d believe and understand that by experience of the reality. But you don’t believe.

You see how you give yourself away at every turn? As sincere as you are, you lie, Jim; you have never known the Lord Jesus Christ, though you’ve “given your body to be burned.” We’ve been over this many times now, in various aspects. We’re not getting anywhere. Why?

“Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do you not believe Me? He who is of God hears God’s Words. Therefore you do not hear them because you are not of God” (John 8:46-47 MKJV).

“We are of God. He who knows God hears us. The one who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:6 MKJV).

IF we’re wrong, may the Lord show us very clearly that you are indeed a brother in Christ. However, all fruits and signs point precisely and mightily in the opposite direction. We only hear the boast of a Pharisee and declaration of his own righteousness, and not the confession of a humble repentant soul. From where I stand by the Scriptures, experience in my life and witness of the Spirit, observing your fruits, I couldn’t be more right, in spite of myself, by the grace of God.

I can’t even be moved to say to you, in light of your works, “You are not far from the Kingdom of God.” I can’t do that, as much as I’d like to be able to do so. Why not? Because the Spirit of Christ testifies to me you aren’t anywhere near, but far removed.

You’re in strong delusion because you hate the Truth and love the lie:

“And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie, so that all those who do not believe the truth, but delight in unrighteousness, might be condemned” (2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 MKJV).

2 Timothy 3:1-5 MKJV
(1)  Know this also, that in the last days grievous times will be at hand.
(2)  For men will be self-lovers, money-lovers, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(3)  without natural affection, unyielding, false accusers, without self-control, savage, despisers of good,
(4)  traitors, reckless, puffed up, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God,
(5)  having a form of godliness, but denying the power of it; even turn away from these.

Victor

Jim, Paul here. You say you want a long list of true teachers. Haven’t you heard what the Lord says?

“And someone said to him, ‘Lord, will those who are saved be few?’ And He said to them, ‘Strive to enter through the narrow door. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able’” (Luke 13:23-24 ESV).

“Yet when the Son of Man comes, shall He find faith on the earth?” (Luke 18:8 MKJV)

So if there are precious few being saved, how much fewer are the teachers sent by God?

“Go in through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many there are who go in through it. Because narrow is the gate and constricted is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it” (Matthew 7:13-14 MKJV).

And what did Jesus say after that? “But don’t worry – I will provide you with a long list of true teachers that can help you enter into the Kingdom”? No, He said: “Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. You shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles?” (Matthew 7:15-16 MKJV)

You’ve never known the Lord or eaten good fruit, Jim – you don’t know what it is. All you know are the works of men, the thorns of which now afflict you on your manmade throne. You know nothing because you presume to know what you’re talking about after having eaten from the Tree of Knowledge. You despise the Tree of Life. It’s hard for you kicking against the goads.

Surely Noah, the preacher of righteousness in his day, would have flunked your true teacher test when demanded by a scoffer like you to produce a long list of names.

Luke 17:26-30 MKJV
(26)  And as it was in the days of Noah, so it also shall be in the days of the Son of Man.
(27)  They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; and the flood came and destroyed them all.
(28)  So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built;
(29)  but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all.
(30)  Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.

And so it is.

 

From: Jim
Sent: August-28-16 5:37 PM
To: Paul Cohen; Victor Hafichuk
Subject: wrapping up with Paul and Victor

I’ll get strait to the appoint. First I appreciate your willing to dialogue and take your time.

And I respect where you are in some areas, but I will say you are off in this area: you say I’m of self righteousness: did you see me when I came to Yeshua crying over my sins? My brokenness from having sinned against Him? Did you see that? To the point I could only cry out to Him for His mercy and grace to save me from my sins? Not just in them…but out of them. Did you see that? Well, it was the most powerful moment of my life. When the Lord put His conviction so strong on me that showed me I was a messed up individual, and I needed to repent, and leave all behind. That I did, and He clothed me in His righteousness. Yes, I do ask, that you pray, and may the Lord show you I’m a true son.

If what I’ve written above is not what He wants, show me in the Word what more He wants, and I will do it. I want everything He wants of me. I’m striving to know Him in every way. What more could you ask of that? I’m willing to do anything He ask of me with an intense hunger. If that’s not enough, it’s as if your saying I can’t have it, not matter how bad I want it no?

From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2016 7:21 AM
To: Jim
Cc: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re: Wrapping up with Paul and Victor

I may not have seen the well the water came from, but I do see the water and by that water, I can tell what sort of well it came from. I may not have ever seen the tree that bore the fruit, but I know what kind of tree the fruit came from by seeing and tasting the fruit.

I don’t at all doubt your word that you had an experience, but I see your fruits of the past you say I haven’t seen and truly, I wasn’t there. You, on the other hand, see neither the nature of your past or the present fruits, part of which is intractability.

“Because you say you see, therefore your sin remains.” You are in delusion, Jim, so in choosing to remain there, we leave you.

Victor

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