“Just My Two Cents”
From: Toby
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 2:30 PM
Subject: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
To who it may concern,
I’ve been reading your website for the last little while and have been browsing your “False Teachers” section. Sadly, I believe you are missing an organization on your list: Yourself.
You have no understanding of doctrine in your “Diabolical Doctrine” section. Your arguments against cessationism is poor and lacking with a failed understanding of the actual arguments used for why they believe Apostles and Prophets are not around today.
To call people unsaved because you, personally, don’t agree with all of their theology is bizarre to say the least. A False Teacher is someone who betrays the Gospel, not someone who says the gift of Tongues no longer exists.
Just my two cents.
Hope the Lord opens your eyes to your self righteous ways; because, surprise! You are not the only keeper of truth – the Lord is and we can find His truth in His Word – the Bible.
From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: Toby
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
“You are not the only keeper of truth – the Lord is and we can find His truth in His Word – the Bible.”
Have you not red the Bible then, Toby? Or is it you don’t have the ability to understand what God is saying in it?
“Just my two cents,” you say. Is that what we find the Lord Jesus and His apostles saying in the Scriptures?
However, you’re right on the value of your words. Everything in your letter is just your opinion. You have no facts, truth, or proof, only false accusation, error, and blasphemy. You don’t see or know the truth of the Scriptures because you don’t confess the Word of God made flesh, the Lord Jesus Christ. You reject Him outright, as you have us, according to His declaration:
“Truly, truly, I say to you, He who receives whomever I send receives Me. And he who receives Me receives Him Who sent Me” (John 13:20 MKJV).
(“He who rejects whomever I send rejects Me. And he who rejects Me rejects Him Who sent me.”)
How convenient for you to believe that God no longer sends His servants to preach by revelation! The days of hiding in the dark and pretending you’re good with God as you continue in sin are over, however. You’ve come to and have fallen on the Foundation Stone, and now His judgment falls on you.
Paul and Victor
From: Toby
To: Paul and Victor
Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2017 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
Kia Ora Paul & Victor,
Thanks for your reply.
I fail understand to see how my email is only opinions and no truth but yours isn’t? You haven’t provided anything more. However, you do, by lack of denial, claim to be the only keeper of truth. Now, is that what we find in the Scriptures?? Obviously not! How can you claim such a thing, for we read in Ephesians 4:11 that “And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers”. Notice the word “some” – notice how it is not “one”.
So tell me again, are you the only keeper of truth?
To answer your loveless questions, I have read the Bible and I am on a lifelong journey of studying it. I have come to the Lord on His terms (not yours) and confessed and repented of my sins and have believed in Jesus Christ as my propitiation, my only right standing before a Holy God.
Lastly, before you tell me that I am unsaved, shouldn’t you check the Gospel that I hold to? Not just call me unsaved because I don’t agree with you?
Also, to say that my rejecting of you is rejecting God you will need to prove to me how you are send by God.
Cheers,
Toby
From: Victor and Paul
To: Toby
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 7:23 AM
Subject: RE[3]: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
Toby,
You fail to understand, period, according to the Word of the Lord:
“The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction” (Proverbs 1:7 KJV).
We have provided Life by the Word of the Lord we speak by His Spirit. That is EVERYTHING.
“Why do you not know My speech? Because you cannot hear My Word” (John 8:43 MKJV).
As members of Christ’s Body and His appointed spokespersons, we are among the “keepers of Truth” He has ordained.
You know nothing of what is to be found in the Scriptures, being blind and foolish by an unregenerate heart.
“To answer your loveless questions, I have read the Bible and I am on a lifelong journey of studying it. I have come to the Lord on His terms (not yours) and confessed and repented of my sins and have believed in Jesus Christ as my propitiation, my only right standing before a Holy God.”
That declaration tells us you have nothing whatsoever to do with the field of wheat except that you are a tare planted by the enemy, receiving the same moisture and sunlight the wheat does; you are a proselyte, a man-made copy of the real, taking upon yourself Jesus Christ’s Name in vain.
We needn’t “check the gospel that [you] hold to.” You’ve declared it to us.
In your adamant, cocksure position, how CAN we agree with one another? Therefore, when you disagree with us while we are in Christ, you reject Him.
We have no need or direction of God to prove anything to you, even as the Lord didn’t appear to unbelievers when He raised Himself from the dead. We’re not here to prove anything to the dead, the presumptuous, the pretenders. You’re a phony, Toby, a cheap copy. And YOU have proven nothing to us except that you are a pretender, a self-righteous, sassy, know-it-all cheat.
In the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we stand and declare His Word to you today:
Matthew 7:21-23 MKJV
(21) Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven.
(22) Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your Name, and through Your Name throw out demons, and through Your Name do many wonderful works?
(23) And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!
Victor and Paul
From: Toby
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: RE[3]: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
Dear Victor,
To begin, I am shocked by your, cold, heartless response.
Now, if I stand condemned should you not reach out to me like Jesus would have during his time one earth? I mean he did come to heal the sick (Mark 2:17), which would be me IF you are right.
Next, please explain to me how you how “provided Life by the Word of the Lord we speak by His Spirit. That is EVERYTHING.” Because, as far as I can see so far you have only spewed out hatred towards me. you have not tried to provide me with the hope that can be found in the Gospel. So, I would like to give you that chance. Please preach to me how to be saved.
On another note, I hadn’t (and still have not) declared the Gospel to you. So please, also tell me how you can be sure that I am unsaved? Is it simply because I am asking questions that you are failing to answer? (I mean no offence by this but only state it as an observation).
And lastly, why resort to name calling and insulting me? You don’t even know me. That is something that even the world knows to be sinful and wrong.
Again, appreciate you taking the time to reply to me, but please do it with more grace and in a more christ-honouring manner.
Toby
From: Victor Hafichuk
To: Toby
Cc: Paul Cohen
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 7:20 AM
Subject: RE[5]: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
Toby, you’re wrong, so wrong, and that’s why you don’t understand the Love and Truth of God and the Scriptures. Indeed, by your carnal reasoning and religious and social indoctrination, you despise the goodness of God.
That’s because you are condemned, not because God and I condemn you but because you don’t believe. You prefer your righteousness, your gods, and your sins to the cross of Christ that alone can bring you to Life.
Jesus didn’t “reach out” to all who were condemned. “Leave them alone,” He said of some, “they be blind guides leading the blind and both shall fall into the ditch.” Of the religious, He had many “condemning” things to say. Try Matthew 23, for one of many scathing examples.
But you don’t think you’re a Pharisee or that you’re wrong, do you? You don’t believe you’re condemned, but think again. I say you are and for that reason, you condemn me. You’ll deny it, but it’s true.
John 3:18-21 MKJV
(18) He who believes on Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
(19) And this is the condemnation, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than the Light, because their deeds were evil.
(20) For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light, lest his deeds should be exposed.(21) But he who practices truth comes to the Light so that his works may be revealed, that they exist, having been worked in God.
Did Jesus come to heal the sick? Yes, He did, and said so, and to those who thought themselves to be well, as you do of yourself, He said:
“Jesus said to them, If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, We see. Therefore your sin remains” (John 9:41 MKJV).
“And when the scribes and Pharisees saw Him eat with tax-collectors and sinners, they said to His disciples, How is it that He eats and drinks with tax-collectors and sinners? When Jesus heard, He said to them, They who are strong have no need of a physician, but the ones who have illness. I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance” (Mark 2:16-17 MKJV).
But you really don’t believe you’re sick, do you, Toby? Well, not THAT sick, right? Here you are like the true Pharisee, preaching at and faulting me, telling me how I ought to do my job, but contradicting yourself because in the same breath you tell us we’re false teachers.
Is that what sick patients do with doctors? Highly unlikely. No, you are “well” enough, aren’t you? You’re here to preach, not learn, to impose and not receive. You are a loudmouthed, impudent brazen harlot who either has no husband or has no idea of God’s Kingdom authority and order. You therefore, aren’t the least interested in Jesus Christ and salvation.
You are the opposite of the Syro-Phoenician woman who bore what appeared to be insult from the Lord’s mouth. She came begging for help, humbled herself, believed, and received healing for her daughter (Matthew 15:25-28).
Of such is the Kingdom of God. Did you come begging for help? Hardly! You came condemning. Your desire isn’t for the Lord’s Kingdom; you’re looking for another Jesus, the one you describe to me in all your wickedness of unbelief and self-righteousness. If you know the Gospel and the Truth so well, why come to me?
You demand that I preach to you another Jesus by another gospel. I can’t oblige you there. You mean no offence? You’re a liar and hypocrite. And you wonder how I know you’re not saved? To those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, it’s no mystery; the fruit is in full view.
Don’t I know you? What does the Lord say about that?
“But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged by no one. For who has known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct Him? But we have the mind of Christ” (1 Corinthians 2:15-16 MKJV).
You say of “name-calling” and “insulting”, “That is something that even the world knows to be sinful and wrong.” So there it is; you see no need for the Gospel or rebuke. You’re too good for that. Aren’t you one of those John and Jesus called vipers? Was that “name-calling” and “insulting,” sweetie?
You don’t appreciate my time at all as you say. If you did, you would be hungrily feeding at our site as others do and finding the answers you demand and accuse us of not providing but you have no patience or desire for that.
Am I not right, Toby? Sure, I am, because as a man of God, I know your slithering, self-righteous kind. Oh, you’re a snake, all right. By His eyes, I see and by His Mind, I understand and judge, not after the appearance.
So, go on in your “shock” at my coldly and heartlessly calling you a “dog.” Perish as you choose. God is surely finished winking at such as you. Watch for it. We know what we’re talking about, even if you don’t think so. We’ve seen it time and again; we see it now.
Victor Hafichuk
From: Toby
To: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2017 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: RE[5]: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
Dear Victor,
1 – You have not been listening at all have you? I have acknowledged that I am a sinner in need of God’s Grace and forgiveness that is found only in Jesus Christ. I freely admit that, so the first half of your email is redundant. Further, I use to hate God and his goodness, because I knew I could not live to His standards – but that is past tense. I now find incredible joy in knowing the One & True Living God and that I have no righteousness of my own – I cling to Jesus for my right standing before Him.
Also, if God does not condemn me (and “apparently” you don’t, even though your words do – “you are condemned, not because God and I condemn you”) how on earth am I condemned? That makes no sense.
2 – Jesus may not have “reached out” to every single person that he encountered, but He also didn’t spew hatred towards those who asked reasonable questions. Harsh words at times are called for. However, none of yours has been.
3 – I have never demanded that you “preach to you another Jesus by another gospel.” I have simple just asked you to preach what you believe to be the Gospel so that we can have a discussion on important things – not just your thoughts and your insults.
4 – Again you avoid the questions and act as if YOU are the omniscience God that knows all things. You know my fruit, do you? Have you observed my life and find it reasonable to call me unsaved/unregenerated? I find that fascinating (no, I find that premature and lacking wisdom) as you have never met me and only have these emails to go from.
5 – “You say of “name-calling” and “insulting”, “That is something that even the world knows to be sinful and wrong.” So there it is; you see no need for the Gospel or rebuke. You’re too good for that. Aren’t you one of those John and Jesus called vipers? Was that “name-calling” and “insulting,” sweetie?”
– I’m sorry, I don’t see your reasoning here. The world does no that it is wrong – so how does this make me see no need for the Gospel?????? How am I too good? I have time after time admitted that I am a sinner. Are you simply replying and not actually reading what I write? Do you know my thoughts before I do? Or are you ashamed that you may be in the wrong?
6 – I do appreciate your time, that’s why I said it. Do not assume to know everything, or you will be proven to be an arrogant fool.
“Am I not right, Toby? Sure, I am, because as a man of God, I know your slithering, self-righteous kind. Oh, you’re a snake, all right. By His eyes, I see and by His Mind, I understand and judge, not after the appearance.” – No your not right. You have no idea of who I am and how I stand before our Almighty God.
Lastly, Victor, I think you may have gotten my gender confused. I am a man. But, on the bright side that does mean you got one thing right in your email, I am “the opposite of the Syro-Phoenician woman” in the fact that I am a man.
Now, if you do not want to interact with actual arguments and logical thoughts, then there is no need for this correspondence to continue. If you are content only to tell me that you are God’s mouthpiece and that there is no fault in you, then we should go our separate ways. You can find someone else to spread your hate to, and I will endeavor to share God’s Gospel of GRACE to whoever will listen.
Grace & Peace
Toby
From: Paul Cohen
To: Toby
Subject: RE[7]: A Missing person on your “False Teachers”
Toby, we’ve been listening and hear what you’re saying. Your problem is you haven’t heard what’s been said to you.
Victor wasn’t assuming you were a woman. He rightly called you a harlot because that’s what you are in the sight of God:
“That’s why even the spring rains have failed. For you are a brazen prostitute and completely shameless” (Jeremiah 3:3).
You either have never had anything to do with Christ, or if you were married to Him you’ve chosen lawlessness over His authority and order.
You don’t recognize the reality of self-condemnation because you’re in it, a victim of yourself and your self-righteousness.
You say: “Jesus may not have ‘reached out’ to every single person that he encountered, but He also didn’t spew hatred towards those who asked reasonable questions.”
Don’t you remember that you came here accusing us of being false teachers and self-righteous? You didn’t come asking questions or giving us any proof. How can anyone justify calling you reasonable?
Now that your contrary stance and objections have been answered truthfully, you call that hateful. Yet it’s for your sake to hear and know these things.
So, yes, in rejecting the True Lord and Savior and His Gospel you have demanded we preach “another Jesus by another gospel,” one that destroys you with nice lies.
Victor wrote to you:
“You say of ‘name-calling’ and ‘insulting’, ‘That is something that even the world knows to be sinful and wrong.’ So there it is; you see no need for the Gospel or rebuke. You’re too good for that. Aren’t you one of those John and Jesus called vipers? Was that ‘name-calling’ and ‘insulting,’ sweetie?”
You say: “I’m sorry, I don’t see your reasoning here. The world does no that it is wrong – so how does this make me see no need for the Gospel?????? How am I too good? I have time after time admitted that I am a sinner. Are you simply replying and not actually reading what I write?”
You’re the one who said Victor called you names and insulted you by telling you the truth about yourself, which you also said the world knows is wrong. Have you not therefore confessed that your opinion comes from the world rather than from the Gospel of Christ? Has the Lord not said the very same things of the religious professors of faith that Victor said to you? Yes on both counts.
Paul