The Man of Sin Defends the Wrong, Fights the Right

From: John
To: The Path of Truth
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 1:47 AM
Subject: Hello Sirs

Hi,

    I came across your website because I had suspected as well that certain people you wrote about were false teachers (repentance not as much focused), and I wanted to hear what others had to say about it; however, as I read 2 of your posts, I couldn’t keep from constantly recalling the entire chapter of 1 Corinthians 13.

    Brothers, if you truly seek to steer these people away from false gospels, why do you call them things like “silly girl” which only detracts from the strong defense of the Gospel we are sworn to defend in “meanness and fear” (1 Peter 3:15)? At very the same time you declare, “answering you responsibly”, then slander with “your shallow, unexamined, satanic defense of man and yourself rather than identification with the Lord Jesus Christ by His cross.” And you claim, “Love has been speaking to you.” Does love with the intent of saving sound like this??

    Does the following text sound like it should be uttered from the mouth of a Christian?

    “One day, as you feed with the swine, it will dawn on you that what we say is true because
    we serve Him Who is True.”

    Now, we are right to judge the brethren inside the body (1 Corinthians 5:12-13), but we are also to examine ourselves first, so that we do not show up as hypocrites. Matthew 7:2 says “For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you.”  So it follows…

    1) Jesus said in Matthew 5:22 that whoever thinks or says “you fool” is in danger of hell fire. Does “silly girl” qualify? Jesus was not one to quibble over semantics…

Repent.

    2) Love is not equal to tolerance. I have no problems regarding a rebuke with the ultimate goal of salvation for those who hear, but speaking as a Jew also, you must know that it is our actions that define us to the world, and if they are not carried out in love, it profanes the name of God, because we carry the name of God’s people and much more so the name of God in Christ. (We’ve already done enough damage in that area as God’s chosen people.)

    So I ask you, based on the “swine” comments above, , can you honestly say the following passage does not apply to you?

    Romans 2
    17 Indeed[ HYPERLINK “https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+52%3B+romans+2&version=NKJV” \l “fen-NKJV-27980b” µb§] you are called a  Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God, 18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law, 19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, 20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law. 21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a  man should not steal, do you steal?22 You who say, “Do not commit adultery,” do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols,  do you rob temples? 23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?24 For “the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you,”[ HYPERLINK “https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+52%3B+romans+2&version=NKJV] as it is written.

    Therefore, repent.

   3) You claim to the writer “love has been speaking to you”. Let me remind you of what Paul says love is in 1 Corinthians 13.

    4 Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed
    up;5 does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; 6 does
    not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth;7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all
    things, endures all things.

  A) You suffered long with the email responses BUT you were not kind: the name calling and passing ultimate judgment in the place of Christ your Lord.

  B) You paraded yourself and you were puffed up. “Just who are you, thinking you know better than Jesus and Paul?” and “it will dawn on you that what we say is true because we serve Him Who is True.”
  C) You behaved rudely. “One day, as you feed with the swine” and “silly girl”
 
 D) You were provoked AND you thought evil of those writing you. “Because you’re false and the god you serve is Satan, father of liars”. NOTE: Not all Christians in error are intentionally trying to spread a false gospel.
  
E) The scripture says, “bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things…” Are you even praying for this person that wrote you? I don’t know, I can’t know, and I pass no judgement on this particular matter, but if not, let the Lord rebuke you.
    (
A-D.) Repent.
    
4) Finally, you state “We’re proving false teachers aren’t men of God. We clear the Name of Christ of any association with liars, thieves, and murderers. Why can’t you see this? Because you’re false and the god you serve is Satan, father of liars, thieves, and murderers.” 

This sounds a lot like an attitude Saul of Tarsus would take BEFORE his conversion. Jesus was able to make this judgement because he himself could see into the hearts and thoughts of men (John 2:25; Matthew 9:4; Luke 9:47); however, unless I’ve missed something, you have no such supernatural insight into people’s hearts and thoughts, or any right to make that kind of judgement. 

Repent.

Alternatively, rebuking but praying for such a person would be nice, though in the Spirit of Galatians 6:1, instead of throwing accusations about the illegitimacy of their adoption into the kingdom. Instead, your very words, attitudes and judgement –in the place of Christ himself–associate Christ with murder, one of the very things you hoped to clear from His name. You end up defeating your own purpose. Even in 1 Timothy,  Paul tells Timothy to rebuke those teachers…not hurl insults. I’ll use your own words… “Just who are you, thinking you know better than Jesus and Paul?” 

Repent.

In short, let Satan do the accusing: don’t do his job for him.

1 Peter 8-9
    8 Finally, all of you be of one  mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, 
    betenderhearted, be courteous;[ HYPERLINK https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter+3
    9 not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that
    you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing.

People are looking at Christians and they are appalled at how we treat each other (e.g. lawsuits, name calling, you name it)…and they don’t all understand that some who profess it aren’t really living it out. …But what are we to say when some of them treat each other better than we treat our own??

*** The Gospel may be the message, but love is the evidence, so I beg you brothers, don’t divorce the two! ***

1 Peter 3:15-16
    15 But sanctify the Lord God[ HYPERLINK “https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Peter+3 ]
     in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a  reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear; 16 having a good conscience, that when they defame you as evildoers, those who revile your good conduct in Christ may be ashamed.
 
They may not understand the deeper things of Christ, but they do see with their eyes, and they are watching us closely.

1 Corinthians 13:11
    When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I
    became a man, I put away childish things.

I implore you, please shame them with a better conduct.

1 Corinthians 13:13
    13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Love,
John

Thank you for taking the time to read.

From: Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
To: John
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: Hello Sirs

Luke 3:7-9 MKJV

(7)  Then he said to the crowd that came forth to be baptized by him, O generation of vipers! Who has warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

(8)  Therefore bring forth fruits worthy of repentance, and do not begin to say within yourselves, We have Abraham for our father. For I say to you that God is able to raise up children to Abraham from these stones.

(9)  And now also the axe is laid to the root of the trees. Therefore every tree which does not bring forth good fruit is cut down and cast into the fire.

John,  

Your objections aren’t primarily against us, but against the Lord and His saints in the Scriptures, all of whom spoke righteous judgment. You come to us as Satan, savoring the things of man. 

For example:  

Brothers, if you truly seek to steer these people away from false gospels, why do you call them things like ‘silly girl’ which only detracts from the strong defense of the Gospel we are sworn to defend in ‘meanness and fear’ (1 Peter 3:15)?

The young woman arguing with us (The False Gospel of Todd White) was silly, meaning “foolish.” And it wasn’t simple-minded ignorance – it was belligerent stupidity, resisting the Holy Spirit while presenting herself as a follower of Christ. What we said was perfectly appropriate according to the Scriptures, fitting exactly with what Paul wrote to Timothy: 

“For of these are those who creep into houses and lead captive silly women loaded with sins, led away with different kinds of lusts, ever learning and never able to come to the full knowledge of the truth” (2 Timothy 3:6-7 MKJV).

So who are you to deny this woman the truth and tell us to repent? Get behind us, Satan. We will preach the Gospel and your mouth will be shut. 

You continue: 
 
At very the same time you declare, ‘answering you responsibly’, then slander with ‘your shallow, unexamined, satanic defense of man and yourself rather than identification with the Lord Jesus Christ by His cross.’ And you claim, ‘Love has been speaking to you.’ Does love with the intent of saving sound like this??

It most certainly does. Obviously you don’t believe the Bible as the Word of God, constantly showing forth God’s love as the hard truth spoken to sinners and those gone astray. 

“Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful” (Proverbs 27:6 MKJV).

Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit and love, spoke the truth to and rebuked the unbelieving Jews of the Sanhedrin, the authorities, no less, and they stoned him for it. Did they stone him because he wasn’t speaking by “love with the intent of saving”? 

“And they stoned Stephen, who was calling on God and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. And kneeling down, he cried with a loud voice, Lord, do not lay this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep” (Acts 7:59-60 MKJV).

You ask: 

Does the following text sound like it should be uttered from the mouth of a Christian?

‘One day, as you feed with the swine, it will dawn on you that what we say is true because we serve Him Who is True.’

Have you not red Luke 15 about the prodigal son? Is that about redemption or condemnation? No, John, it is you who needs to repent and stop serving Satan and his false love. You are in full-blown presumption of the man of sin, an anti-Christ opposing the Lord. 

Paul and Victor
www.ThePathofTruth.com

From: John
To: Paul and Victor
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Hello Sirs

Sirs,

    Thank you for your response. His word does not return to him void.

Question #1: Did you carefully consider the scriptures and their contexts from my last email?  Did you pray over them?

The heart is deceitful above all things,
And desperately wicked;
Who can know it? (Jeremiah 17:19)

Listen to counsel and receive instruction,
That you may be wise in your latter days. (Proverbs 19:20)

You stated.

Your objections aren’t primarily against us, but against the Lord and His saints in the Scriptures, all of whom spoke righteous judgment. You come to us as Satan, savoring the things of man.

Question #2: What things of man did I savor? 

Tell me since you are a prophet sir. You are entering into judgement again and by the same stick you will be measured by God.

So who are you to deny this woman the truth and tell us to repent? 

Question #3: When did I say to deny this woman the truth? 

Sir(s), you don’t have to water down the Gospel to tell the truth, but you are much too arrogant to be teaching.

Obviously you don’t believe the Bible as the Word of God, constantly showing forth God’s love as the hard truth spoken to sinners and those gone astray.

Question #4:  Where do you get that I don’t believe the Bible as the Word of God? 

Just because I have a strong disagreement as to how you handled your response does not mean I disagree with the rebuking itself. I don’t disagree with that. Again, you are entering into judgement…and a very incorrect one at that. 

The LORD himself knows I believe all of the bible to be true historically and factually, including the parts from the beginning to the end, especially involving correction (2 Timothy 3:16). One day, I hope He will assure you to the truth about the matter since you are so quick to disbelieve that from one email. Again, since you are so quick to rush into judgement about what I believe without knowing me personally, I will pray for you.

“Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful” (Proverbs 27:6 MKJV)

and

Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit and love, spoke the truth to and rebuked the unbelieving Jews of the Sanhedrin, the authorities, no less, and they stoned him for it. Did they stone him because he wasn’t speaking by “love with the intent of saving”?

I don’t disagree with this. Keep telling it like it is, but ask yourself, are you doing it to build up or to tear down? Even if you are right, God will judge your heart’s intentions, so make sure you don’t deceive yourself. James 1:26 says the following.

26 If anyone among you[a] thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this one’s religion is useless.

The wounds of a friend hurt because the truth hurts, but they aren’t coated with venom.

You also said…

‘One day, as you feed with the swine, it will dawn on you that what we say is true because we serve Him Who is True.’”
 
Have you not red Luke 15 about the prodigal son? Is that about redemption or condemnation?

Every way of a man is right in his own eyes,
But the Lord weighs the hearts. (Proverbs 21:2)

I was aware of the reference, however…

  1. You did not provide any verse numbers for her, so how would she or anyone else who could benefit from that knowledge understand?
  2. You knew she wouldn’t understand you made the statement because you’ve already admitted she was living under a false Gospel, and as such, she likely would not get the reference to the story in Luke 15.
  3. You coupled the reference to a claim that you “serve Him Who is True”, stressing your works. You profane the name of the LORD: He is more interested in your heart as you perform said works.

Its painfully obvious that never intended for her to get the reference; you were taking a haughty stab.

Furthermore, you well know that nothing dawns on anyone without the Holy Spirit convicting them. Your service is not required for God to take action in a person’s heart. He calls you to do so in response to the redemption he gave you, and you should be doing so out of gratitude, but by no means does God rely on your service. You are cursing yourselves by robbing God of His glory; therefore, repent. As for the girl, she will not see the truth of anything you say because of your service. She’s going to look at your life and attitude.

Last, your claim, somehow incorrectly associating me with “that” camp, as is as follows.

No, John, it is you who needs to repent and stop serving Satan and his false love. You are in full-blown presumption of the man of sin, an anti-Christ opposing the Lord.

This would be correct if I ascribed to that camp’s ideology. I don’t. Once again, you’ve made another truth claim on what I believe about the bible–which happens to be incorrect–causing you to enter into another lie. You are throwing around all these claims about your service to God, and your heart isn’t even in the right place. Scripture says…

He who loves purity of heart
And has grace on his lips,
The king will be his friend. (Proverbs 22:11)

Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also. (Matthew 23:26)

Let love be without hypocrisy. (Romans 12:9)

Yes, repent. You should. …And you can add to that list (a) not just failing to analyze yourself, but (b) ascribing a belief system to me that I don’t have, both, in order to turn the lens away from your own illegitimate behavior.

James 3 My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment. For we all stumble in many things. If anyone does not stumble in word, he is a perfect man, able also to bridle the whole body. Indeed,[a] we put bits in horses’ mouths that they may obey us, and we turn their whole body. Look also at ships: although they are so large and are driven by fierce winds, they are turned by a very small rudder wherever the pilot desires. Even so the tongue is a little member and boasts great things.

See how great a forest a little fire kindles! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and creature of the sea, is tamed and has been tamed by mankind. But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening? 12 Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both salt water and fresh.[b]

Heavenly Versus Demonic Wisdom

13 Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. 16 For where envy and self-seeking exist,confusion and every evil thing are there. 17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. 18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Sincerely,

John

From: Paul and Victor
To: John
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 7:11 AM
Subject: Another Mocker and Vainglorious Fool without Substance

John, you’ve come to us as Satan by asking us to change our approach when we’re speaking the truth as given to us by the Lord Jesus Christ. You haven’t disproved a stitch of the truth we’ve spoken or repented of your enmity, so all your subsequent complaints and questions err in content and spirit. You can insist you’re right, but we have nothing more to say to you. The end will tell the truth – that’s the one true thing you’ve said – God’s Word will not return to Him void. 

Paul & Victor

From: John
To: Paul and Victor
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:19 PM
Subject: Can we start a new, separate thread on the arguments against the Trinity?

Dear Paul and Victor,

    Can we start a new separate thread?  I’m reading a bit more on your website, and I am wondering if you can answer me the following question.

    With regards to the God, scripture reveals the following in Matthew 26.

36 Then Jesus went with them to a place called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, “Sit here, while I go over there and pray.” 37 And taking with him Peter and the two sons of Zebedee, he began to be sorrowful and troubled. 38 Then he said to them, “My soul is very sorrowful, even to death; remain here, and watch with me.” 39 And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will.” 40 And he came to the disciples and found them sleeping. And he said to Peter, “So, could you not watch with me one hour?

So, seeing as Jesus was not around (and made every effort to not be around) the rest of his disciples when he entered into prayer…

  1. Was He praying to Himself, and if so, why?
  2. Isn’t that pointless?

Again, in the transfiguration on the mount, scripture reveals the following in Luke 9:28-36.

34 While he was saying this, a cloud came and overshadowed them; and they were fearful as they entered the cloud. 35 And a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son. Hear Him!” 36 When the voice had ceased, Jesus was found alone. But they kept quiet, and told no one in those days any of the things they had seen.

  1. Why did He instruct His disciples through a cloud to hear Him?
  2. Isn’t that pointless if He is the same person?
  3. Matthew 17 records the same event, but in Matthew 16, Peter already confesses that He knows Jesus is the “Christ, the Son of the living God.” What is the purpose of the command to Hear Him?

In Matthew 16:17, Jesus reveals that his Father is in heaven (“but My Father who is in heaven.”).

Why didn’t Jesus just say that He was the One that revealed it? Why didn’t He just keep things simple and tell them they could pray to Him, instead of getting confused with another person of God? It seems to me that Jesus should have took your advise…but he didn’t.

Now, consider this…before Abraham, when He came to Earth to judge Genesis 19:24 reveals.

24 Then the Lord rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the Lord out of the heavens.

There are 2 LORDs: one on earth, and one in heaven. You can check the Hebrew…the tetragrammaton appears twice. He came down see if things were as bad as he knew they were to be (Genesis 18:21) and demonstrate to Abraham that He is a just God, not condemning the innocent with the guilty (Genesis 18:23-33).

Fast-forward to the days of His incarnation in Luke 9:54-55…

54 And when His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?”

55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. 56 For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.”

Yes, he came to save them, just as He did back in Genesis 18-19.

    Regarding God’s glory, John 17:5 says…

And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Sharing glory requires 2 persons, even if it is but one God. You can’t share something with someone that doesn’t exist. “Together with Yourself” gives it away that it’s two persons. Praying for Himself gives it away that it’s 2 persons. You simply don’t pray for yourself in the Garden of Gethsemane (above) when you are the One in charge and everyone knows it.

    Lastly, the consider the Greek of John 17:8.

Jesus “came out of” the Father. A better word would be “exited”, as that the Greek word “exelthon” is exactly what that means. If you don’t believe me, just go to http://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/17-8.htm, copy the Greek characters, and paste them into Google translate.  See what comes up for yourself.

Jesus is God come out of the Father’s essence, and the Father is God also.

Sincerely,

John

From: Paul and Victor
To: John
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: Can we start a new, separate thread on the arguments against the Trinity?

You have our writings that cover your questions and more, John. Read these. 

Jesus Christ Is God
Could Jesus Christ Have Sinned?
Jesus Christ: A Great Man or Jehovah God? 
Jesus Christ, Almighty God
The Most Glorious of Truths
The Son of Man and His Mission in the Israel of God
“Who Do Men Say that I Am?”
Worshipping Christ as God 
“You Worship You Know Not What…”

The Trinity
The Asininity of the Trinity
By Any Other Name, It’s Still the Trinity: And It Smells Bad 
The Carnal Reasonings of a Trinitarian 
Diabolical Doctrine: The Trinity (God Is Three Persons) 
The Gospel According to Trinitarians
The Perfecting Faith of the Son of God 
The Wisdom of God Trumps Trinitarian Tricksterism
You Can’t Explain What You Don’t Know: And You Can’t Know What You Don’t Have

From: John
To: Paul and Victor
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Another Mocker and Vainglorious Fool without Substance

Paul and Victor,

    First you say…

John, you’ve come to us as Satan by asking us to change our approach when we’re speaking the truth as given to us by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Question #5:  Are you sure it wasn’t James, the brother of our Lord, who rebukes you from his epistle?

James 3:17 But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy.
Next you say…

You haven’t disproved a stitch of the truth we’ve spoken or repented of your enmity, so all your subsequent complaints and questions err in content and spirit.

You say that I haven’t disproved anything…

Question #6:  What specifically have I “not disproved”?

Also, going to google.com and entering the text, “define enmity”, yields the following definition.

the state or feeling of being actively opposed or hostile to someone or something.
e.g. “enmity between Protestants and Catholics”

Question #7:  I oppose your methods, but when did I show you hostility or opposition that specifically justifies a need of repentance, and which scriptures validate your claim?

Question #8:  Since the only statements I’ve made in my questions include a restatement of the content of your responses, dictionary citations and excerpts of God’s word in its context, in what way has the “content” erred?

Question #9:  Please provide me with one example of how the “spirit” of my questions in this subsequent email has err’ed. 

    Also, I’m still waiting for an answer to the following questions.

Question #1: Did you carefully consider the scriptures and their contexts from my 2nd-to-last email?  Did you pray over them?

Question #2: What things of man did I savor? 

Question #3: When did I say to deny this woman the truth? 

Question #4:  Where do you get that I don’t believe the Bible as the Word of God?

    In one of your articles, you said it wasn’t about who “wins”… but it is! God needs to win, and he needs to win BIG in your heart and mine. So, I press you. Will you not answer these questions I have asked? 

Last, you say…

You can insist you’re right, but we have nothing more to say to you. The end will tell the truth – that’s the one true thing you’ve said – God’s Word will not return to Him void.

Question #10:  Which of the scriptures that I cited were not the truth? Did any have an incorrect context, and if so, which? Please provide examples.

    Know this, Paul and Victor, even though I disagree with your approach wholeheartedly…even though you hate me, I still love you, or I wouldn’t be spending the time to write you back. In Revelation 3, Jesus said he’d rather have us (i.e. our works) hot or cold, rather than lukewarm, so will you then in the same spirit have me? It’s harder to work with someone who doesn’t care than someone who is far off the mark… and you have my full attention…as much as I can give.

Matthew 5:21-22
21 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment.’ 22 But I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ shall be in danger of the council. But whoever says, ‘You [mocker and vainglorious] fool!’ shall be in danger of hell fire.

    It’s okay to be angry with me; I can take it. You think you have a justified reason to be insulting…I get that (sort of), and I forgive you, but don’t put yourself in danger of hell fire by calling me a fool! Remember, James, the brother of our Lord, says…

James 3:8-10
8 But no man can tame the tongue. It is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our God and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in the similitude of God. 10 Out of the same mouth proceed blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.

2 Corinthians 13:14
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, 
and the love of God, 
and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. 
Amen.

God bless,

John

PS – Thank you for the links regarding our discussion thread on the Trinity doctrine, and thank you for separating that into a separate email chain. Without those links, I would have had to crawl through the whole site, but now I can focus down to just those pages. I appreciate it.

Ephesians 4:31-32
31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. 32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

Galatians 6:1-5
6 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each one examine his own work, and then he will have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For each one shall bear his own load.

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