Quin Van Liere
Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 10:26 am
Victor received an email from Quin Van Liere, a former neighbor who is mentioned in the following particles: The Lid Blows and More Un-Neighbors.
From: Quin VanLiere
Sent: August-13-16 8:17 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject:
You are wrong in all your ways, you leave a path of destruction. Feel sorry for Marylin and your kid.
Here is the correspondence that followed:
From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: August-14-16 10:23 AM
To: Quin VanLiere
Cc: Marilyn Hafichuk
Subject: RE: My Wrongness and Destruction
Hi Quin,
If I am wrong in all my ways as you say, I would very much appreciate it if you would tell me exactly how. If you can show me how I’m wrong, by God’s grace I’m willing to admit it, make it right in any way I can and make restitution and apologies as soon as possible, wherever called for, with you or anyone else. I’m dead serious about that. I’m also willing to make a public confession and apology to all those I’ve wronged.
After all, evil and wrongness just don’t pay, no matter how you cut it. Wouldn’t you agree?
Are you prepared to do that for me, my wife Marilyn and son Jonathan?
Thank you for writing, Quin. I appreciate the golden opportunity to make right any wrongs I've done.
Victor
On Aug 20, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Victor Hafichuk wrote:
Hi Quin,
Did you not receive my reply? Or do you not have anything to say that would help us? I’m serious about hearing from you and having an honest heart-to-heart dialogue.
I have no desire to strive with you, only to resolve. In the end, that’s what you and I are ultimately required under God to do – no choice in the matter. You know that, don’t you? None of us walks away from anything, whether believer or unbeliever, Netherland Reform or Catholic, churchgoer or secularist.
“But I say to you that every idle word, whatever men may speak, they shall give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned” (Matthew 12:36-37 MKJV).
That would go for actions, as well, wouldn’t it?
“For nothing is secret that shall not be revealed; nor secret which shall not be known and come to be revealed. Therefore, be careful how you hear. For whoever has, to him shall be given; and whoever has not, from him shall be taken even that which he seems to have” (Luke 8:17-18 MKJV).
Do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, Quin? Do you know Who He is and what is His will for us in this life?
Victor
From: Quin VanLiere
Sent: August-20-16 7:34 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: My Wrongness and Destruction
I don't have much time to waste on you, if you say you are saved and all by God, you would not write such slander in that book you wrote online, Jesus never bad mouthed his enemies, only had compassion. I believe if you had true saving grace your writing would be much different. The bible says the world will be full of false prophets, I think you fall very comfortably into that category. Regards, Quin
From: Martin Van Popta
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:23 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk; Quin VanLiere
Cc: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re: FW: My Wrongness and Destruction
Quin, how about some substance, or is this just another hit-and-run? You were quite a vindictive little brat growing up and by your behavior lately, it‘s apparent you haven’t changed any. You owe Victor an apology, but instead you continue to harass and mock.
You write “…if you say you are saved and all by God, you would not write such slander in that book you wrote online, Jesus never bad mouthed his enemies….”
“Slander” means, “words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another.” What has Victor said that’s untrue? What he has written is what he knows to be true with several witnesses confirming, without any intent on his part to harm anyone. Can you show him anything he’s said that isn’t true? He’s willing to hear you out and talk this over as said and demonstrated. But if you don’t have the time for a discussion that you initiated, then we must rightfully conclude that you don’t know of anything he’s said that isn’t true.
On the other hand, haven’t you been slandering Victor, Quin, saying false things with the intent of giving him an evil reputation?
It’s true that Jesus didn’t slander anyone or commit any sin, but He did “badmouth” evildoers, contrary to what you say. Jesus spoke the truth to many about their evil ways (Matthew 23, for example), which they didn’t appreciate at all. Aren’t you aware that it’s because of this that they killed Him?
And do you know why Jesus “badmouthed”? Do you think it was with evil intent? Your words and actions say you do. So do you want to continue accusing Jesus Christ of evil and being a false prophet, seeing He did the things you say qualify Victor as a false prophet?
Your countenance comes as no surprise to me. I was raised in the same devilish Calvinism that you were, but praise God, He set me free from it. I grew up as a pastor’s kid in the Canadian Reformed Church and my brothers and I did whatever the hell we wanted. We were little devils that were only wrong if we were caught. Sure, I grew up after that and “matured” but nothing really changed. I just got better at not being caught. As long as it could be denied or rationalized, it was permissible. Stealing, lying, drugs, pornography, you name it. As long as I couldn’t be pinned down.
I don’t see that you’re any different, Quin. You’re of your father Calvin, a liar and murderer. Your founding church father was an unrepentant serial killer! It didn’t bother him a bit to burn men alive on green wood to prolong their agony. And this, only because of a disagreement. He had no regrets, and I don’t see that you do either. You have no conscience and no remorse.
If the deeds of your youth are so shameful that you don’t want them posted publicly, then why don’t you repent of them? Don’t the Scriptures declare that everything that is hid will be made manifest?
“For there is nothing hidden which shall not be revealed; nor became covered, but that it might come to the light” (Mark 4:22 MKJV).
You’re an unrepentant jerk, Quin. Despite the fact that you’ve been the destructive one, you come accusing Victor, who’s never done you any wrong. And then when Victor, not returning evil with evil, offers a hand to you to make things right, you condemn and dismiss him.
You say “Jesus never bad-mouthed his enemies, only had compassion.”
Seeing as you know Jesus so well, why don’t you show me in the Scriptures where He tells someone “I don't have much time to waste on you”? Is that your idea of “loving your enemies”? Where is YOUR compassion? The apple doesn’t fall far from Calvin’s rotten Tree of Arrogance. Surely his devils rule you.
The Truth is, you have no use for compassion. You believe Victor is going to roast in hell for billions of years in unthinkable agony while you shrug your shoulders indifferently with your fellow Calvinists, licking ice cream cones together. And even though you believe this damnable lie, you won’t bother to waste your time witnessing to him by owning up to the sins of your youth. You won’t even spare a few moments or a sliver of your pride to save your neighbor from infinite damnation. Talk about love, man. The grace and mercy of Christ is just glowing in you like a sunbeam.
So here you stand confidently, accusing a prophet of God of "being wrong in all [his] ways", while blindly following Calvin who is among the vilest false prophets set loose on earth.
Your days are done, Quin!
Because you "don’t have much time to waste” on apologizing and making things right before God, God will no longer waste any of His time on you. He is done with you. Whatever you seem to have has now been taken away.
Martin Van Popta
Subject: Re: My Wrongness and Destruction
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:34:27 +0000
From: Quin VanLiere
To: Martin Van Popta
Wow are you ever a piece of work with that talk, you must think your God, telling me I'm done, once again, shows how Christian you really are, or actually, shows how nicely you are cradled in satans arms,
Subject: Re: My Wrongness and Destruction
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:59:01 +0000
From: Quin VanLiere
To: Martin Van Popta
Any ways, been nice talking, best regards to you and Victor, I don't pursue these matters, take care, Quin
From: Quin VanLiere
Sent: August-13-16 8:17 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject:
You are wrong in all your ways, you leave a path of destruction. Feel sorry for Marylin and your kid.
Here is the correspondence that followed:
From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: August-14-16 10:23 AM
To: Quin VanLiere
Cc: Marilyn Hafichuk
Subject: RE: My Wrongness and Destruction
Hi Quin,
If I am wrong in all my ways as you say, I would very much appreciate it if you would tell me exactly how. If you can show me how I’m wrong, by God’s grace I’m willing to admit it, make it right in any way I can and make restitution and apologies as soon as possible, wherever called for, with you or anyone else. I’m dead serious about that. I’m also willing to make a public confession and apology to all those I’ve wronged.
After all, evil and wrongness just don’t pay, no matter how you cut it. Wouldn’t you agree?
Are you prepared to do that for me, my wife Marilyn and son Jonathan?
Thank you for writing, Quin. I appreciate the golden opportunity to make right any wrongs I've done.
Victor
On Aug 20, 2016, at 8:01 AM, Victor Hafichuk wrote:
Hi Quin,
Did you not receive my reply? Or do you not have anything to say that would help us? I’m serious about hearing from you and having an honest heart-to-heart dialogue.
I have no desire to strive with you, only to resolve. In the end, that’s what you and I are ultimately required under God to do – no choice in the matter. You know that, don’t you? None of us walks away from anything, whether believer or unbeliever, Netherland Reform or Catholic, churchgoer or secularist.
“But I say to you that every idle word, whatever men may speak, they shall give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you shall be justified, and by your words you shall be condemned” (Matthew 12:36-37 MKJV).
That would go for actions, as well, wouldn’t it?
“For nothing is secret that shall not be revealed; nor secret which shall not be known and come to be revealed. Therefore, be careful how you hear. For whoever has, to him shall be given; and whoever has not, from him shall be taken even that which he seems to have” (Luke 8:17-18 MKJV).
Do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, Quin? Do you know Who He is and what is His will for us in this life?
Victor
From: Quin VanLiere
Sent: August-20-16 7:34 PM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: My Wrongness and Destruction
I don't have much time to waste on you, if you say you are saved and all by God, you would not write such slander in that book you wrote online, Jesus never bad mouthed his enemies, only had compassion. I believe if you had true saving grace your writing would be much different. The bible says the world will be full of false prophets, I think you fall very comfortably into that category. Regards, Quin
From: Martin Van Popta
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:23 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk; Quin VanLiere
Cc: Paul Cohen
Subject: Re: FW: My Wrongness and Destruction
Quin, how about some substance, or is this just another hit-and-run? You were quite a vindictive little brat growing up and by your behavior lately, it‘s apparent you haven’t changed any. You owe Victor an apology, but instead you continue to harass and mock.
You write “…if you say you are saved and all by God, you would not write such slander in that book you wrote online, Jesus never bad mouthed his enemies….”
“Slander” means, “words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another.” What has Victor said that’s untrue? What he has written is what he knows to be true with several witnesses confirming, without any intent on his part to harm anyone. Can you show him anything he’s said that isn’t true? He’s willing to hear you out and talk this over as said and demonstrated. But if you don’t have the time for a discussion that you initiated, then we must rightfully conclude that you don’t know of anything he’s said that isn’t true.
On the other hand, haven’t you been slandering Victor, Quin, saying false things with the intent of giving him an evil reputation?
It’s true that Jesus didn’t slander anyone or commit any sin, but He did “badmouth” evildoers, contrary to what you say. Jesus spoke the truth to many about their evil ways (Matthew 23, for example), which they didn’t appreciate at all. Aren’t you aware that it’s because of this that they killed Him?
And do you know why Jesus “badmouthed”? Do you think it was with evil intent? Your words and actions say you do. So do you want to continue accusing Jesus Christ of evil and being a false prophet, seeing He did the things you say qualify Victor as a false prophet?
Your countenance comes as no surprise to me. I was raised in the same devilish Calvinism that you were, but praise God, He set me free from it. I grew up as a pastor’s kid in the Canadian Reformed Church and my brothers and I did whatever the hell we wanted. We were little devils that were only wrong if we were caught. Sure, I grew up after that and “matured” but nothing really changed. I just got better at not being caught. As long as it could be denied or rationalized, it was permissible. Stealing, lying, drugs, pornography, you name it. As long as I couldn’t be pinned down.
I don’t see that you’re any different, Quin. You’re of your father Calvin, a liar and murderer. Your founding church father was an unrepentant serial killer! It didn’t bother him a bit to burn men alive on green wood to prolong their agony. And this, only because of a disagreement. He had no regrets, and I don’t see that you do either. You have no conscience and no remorse.
If the deeds of your youth are so shameful that you don’t want them posted publicly, then why don’t you repent of them? Don’t the Scriptures declare that everything that is hid will be made manifest?
“For there is nothing hidden which shall not be revealed; nor became covered, but that it might come to the light” (Mark 4:22 MKJV).
You’re an unrepentant jerk, Quin. Despite the fact that you’ve been the destructive one, you come accusing Victor, who’s never done you any wrong. And then when Victor, not returning evil with evil, offers a hand to you to make things right, you condemn and dismiss him.
You say “Jesus never bad-mouthed his enemies, only had compassion.”
Seeing as you know Jesus so well, why don’t you show me in the Scriptures where He tells someone “I don't have much time to waste on you”? Is that your idea of “loving your enemies”? Where is YOUR compassion? The apple doesn’t fall far from Calvin’s rotten Tree of Arrogance. Surely his devils rule you.
The Truth is, you have no use for compassion. You believe Victor is going to roast in hell for billions of years in unthinkable agony while you shrug your shoulders indifferently with your fellow Calvinists, licking ice cream cones together. And even though you believe this damnable lie, you won’t bother to waste your time witnessing to him by owning up to the sins of your youth. You won’t even spare a few moments or a sliver of your pride to save your neighbor from infinite damnation. Talk about love, man. The grace and mercy of Christ is just glowing in you like a sunbeam.
So here you stand confidently, accusing a prophet of God of "being wrong in all [his] ways", while blindly following Calvin who is among the vilest false prophets set loose on earth.
Your days are done, Quin!
Because you "don’t have much time to waste” on apologizing and making things right before God, God will no longer waste any of His time on you. He is done with you. Whatever you seem to have has now been taken away.
Martin Van Popta
Subject: Re: My Wrongness and Destruction
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 14:34:27 +0000
From: Quin VanLiere
To: Martin Van Popta
Wow are you ever a piece of work with that talk, you must think your God, telling me I'm done, once again, shows how Christian you really are, or actually, shows how nicely you are cradled in satans arms,
Subject: Re: My Wrongness and Destruction
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:59:01 +0000
From: Quin VanLiere
To: Martin Van Popta
Any ways, been nice talking, best regards to you and Victor, I don't pursue these matters, take care, Quin