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What is presented is the fulfillment of the words spoken by John in Revelation:

Revelation 17:15-18 MKJV
(15) And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues,
(16) and the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked. And they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
(17) For God gave into their hearts to do His mind, and to act with one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast until the Words of God will be fulfilled.
(18) And the woman whom you saw is the great city which has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.

You see no opposition or outcry of indignation because the judgment of God upon the whore, Mystery, is here. That beast is Islam. Who knew that when Obama became president of the US that it would be at the cost of countless nominal Christian lives?

The Islam is not mentioned in the Book of Revelation.Thats CARNAL MINDED.
The Book of the REVELATION of JESUS CHRIST,is not the BOOK of the FUTURE OF THE EARTH.

Why can we NOT see that scriptural fact?...because Carnal needs no "ear to hear and eyes to see".All they hear and see is natural Interpretation...

The Book oof Revelation is plainly declaired as an spiritual BOOK..Given to the 7 CHURCHES and GIVEN to the "SERVANTS".to the "bondslaves of Christ.
NOT given to natural men and not given to outer Nations.

Sorry VICTOR...I know,you will NOT risk to publish my opinion here as an answer in the Forum,because YOU cant do it,without to humble yourself to that glorious REVELATION of JESUS and the BODY of Christ.....
Think over it!!!

Tom, you write: “The Islam is not mentioned in the Book of Revelation.Thats CARNAL MINDED. The Book of the REVELATION of JESUS CHRIST,is not the BOOK of the FUTURE OF THE EARTH.”

We certainly have no argument with the book of The Revelation of Jesus Christ being a spiritual book. Of course it is, as is the whole Bible.

“The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His servants the things that must soon take place” (Revelation 1:1 ESV).

“The things that must soon take place” are the future, so how can you say this isn’t “the book of the future of the earth”? Yes, the book applies in truth to each person individually, but that doesn’t preclude it from telling us what will happen to all men on earth.

“And He made it known by sending it through His angel to His servant John, who testified to the Word of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ, as many things as He saw, both the things that are and those that must happen after these” (Revelation 1:1-2 EMTV).

You also write: “The Book oof Revelation is plainly declaired as an spiritual BOOK..Given to the 7 CHURCHES and GIVEN to the "SERVANTS".to the "bondslaves of Christ. NOT given to natural men and not given to outer Nations.”

Were there not seven actual churches, filled with actual people? Does that make it any less a spiritual book? Are you one who denies the physical reality God has given us for His glorious creative work? Do you deny that He made the heavens and the earth?

And just because the book was written to believers doesn’t preclude it from addressing matters of unbelievers and the rest of the world.

“And he said to me, You must prophesy again before many peoples and nations and tongues and kings” (Revelation 10:11 MKJV).

“And the nations were full of wrath, and Your wrath came, and the time of the judging of the dead, and to give the reward to Your servants the prophets, and to the saints, and to the ones fearing Your Name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those destroying the earth” (Revelation 11:18 MKJV).

“And it was given to it to war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given to it over every tribe and tongue and nation. And all dwelling on the earth will worship it, those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain, from the foundation of the world” (Revelation 13:7-8 MKJV).

“And another angel followed, saying, The great city, Babylon, has fallen, has fallen; because of the wine of the anger of her fornication; she has made all nations to drink” (Revelation 14:8 MKJV).

“Who shall not fear You, O Lord, and glorify Your Name? For You only are holy. For all nations shall come and worship before You, for Your righteousnesses were made known” (Revelation 15:4 MKJV).

Revelation 16:19-21 MKJV
(19) And the great city came to be into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give to her the cup of the wine of the anger of His wrath.
(20) And every island fled away, and mountains were not found.
(21) And a great hail, as the size of a talent, came down out of the heaven on men. And men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague of it was exceedingly great.

Revelation 17:15-18 MKJV
(15) And he says to me, The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits are peoples and multitudes and nations and tongues,
(16) and the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot and will make her desolate and naked. And they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
(17) For God gave into their hearts to do His mind, and to act with one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast until the Words of God will be fulfilled.
(18) And the woman whom you saw is the great city which has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.

“For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies” (Revelation 18:3 KJV).

“And the light of a lamp will never more shine at all in you. And the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride will never more be heard at all in you. For your merchants were the great ones of the earth; for by your sorceries all nations were deceived. And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all those who were slain on the earth” (Revelation 18:23-24 MKJV).

“And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, so that with it He should strike the nations. And He will shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the wine of the anger and of the wrath of Almighty God” (Revelation 19:15 MKJV).

“In the midst of its street, and of the river, from here and from there, was the Tree of Life, which bore twelve fruits, each yielding its fruit according to one month. And the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations” (Revelation 22:2 MKJV).

Glory to God, our Lord Jesus Christ and Savior! So who are you, Tom, to say that His glorious revelation has nothing to do with the nations and kingdoms of men?

And tell us your spiritual revelation of the beast riding on the whore. We’re ready to listen and to answer, by God’s grace.

You write, “Sorry VICTOR...I know,you will NOT risk to publish my opinion here as an answer in the Forum,because YOU cant do it,without to humble yourself to that glorious REVELATION of JESUS and the BODY of Christ.....

Think over it!!!”

Tom, are you taunting us, trying to ensure you get your words published? What makes you think we’re afraid of your foolish criticism posted publicly? Haven’t you been reading our site? You’ll find we welcome posting everyone’s comments and replying to them that others may learn and be edified, even if foolish writers proudly and stubbornly go away as empty as they come. Hopefully, for your sake, you’ll find yourself embarrassed in your ignorance and carelessness you deem to be knowledge and wisdom, godly no less. We’ll see who needs to humble himself; you not only have much to learn, but also much to repent of in pride, presumption and wilful ignorance.

It’s obvious you aren’t very responsible or attentive – so far you've refused to responsibly read the writings we refer to.

Paul and Victor

Dear Paul and Victor!

First of all I have to say thank you for your comment.Because I am from Germany I will apologize my bad english.I am not writing here to "start a war " against anybody personal,but a war against the traditional church with their "dark doctrins".

As far I understood,Victor was claiming the "ISLAM" as the beast.All I said is "thats not what the Bible says" and is therefore only a personel specuation which finds a place here in the Forum .Cause Victor has a great reputation as a "teacher" he should clearly has to point out that the "ISLAM" in HIS opinion might be the beast!!.

He is responsible to all followers of this Website for his teachings. A Website so called "The Path of the Truth" takes a huge burdon on its shoulder.Never forget that fact.To deal with the truth of the scripture and to teach it requires at least to be an OVERCOMER ,at minimum to be not only a budy who took the salvation as a free gift ,but who is going to claim the prize of rulership,to get in the sonship of GOD.
I do not claim for my little person to be one of this overcomers.I try to overcome.


Coming back to scripture.
To understand the Book of Revelation we first have to find out...WHO is that Angel of the Lord? Why is the book written to the angels of the 7 churches and the servants?

Another Question (in this case belonging to Victors View of the biest):Why should a reader of the Book of Revelation be blessed(happy ) ,lets say a reader of the Year 250A.D.when the Revelation will tell him that the beast is ISLAM,which was foundet about 620 A.D.
Rev.1:3
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

It says..FOR TIME IS AT HAND...As far I understand english language,the meaning of "Time is at hand" will nothing other say...its NOW,or at minimum very near!The time has come.I cannot see in that phrase future external events.
It must be something,which makes every reader of the Book of Revelation be blessed, at any time somebody read or has read that book.So what about to be happy,that the Islam is the Beast?So what about happy,that the WORLD will be destroyed ?What about to be blessed by reading that a multitude of people will find a terrible end by the wrath of GOD

Who loved the world so much,that he gave his son!...We know,that according to
1 John 4:8
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

GOS IS LOVE!!!....it doesnt say "God loves"..NO! GOD ..I S...L O V E
This is a unique description about the BEING of GOD...HE IS LOVE.Anything else cannot claim that NATURE,which IS GOD HIMSELF....LOVE!You are not LOVE ,I am NOT LOVE ,nobody IS LOVE,but GOD is.
Out of that truth,nothing can come out of GOD as an action what is NOT for the Purpose of Love!!
THe Book of Revelation is the ultimative unveiling of the LORD Jesus Christ and his body the church,the manifestation of the sonship of GOD.The Revelation is called in
Vers 1

Revelation 1:9

1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Its NOT the Revelation of the future history of the fleshly earth.NO ,it plainly proclaims

THE REVELATION OF ..J E S U S -C H R I S T !!Not my words,its the scripture which says that.and this Revelation is given to servants by HIS ANGEL(Who is that angle?)..okay..its the holy Spirit!!
You will find this angel appearing all the way through almost every chapter.and what is the Spirit doing?He signifies the message!...Means:He tell us all in symbols The Greek word SEMAINO is a derivative of SEMO meaning to indicate by symbolsor signs..
In the New Testamen Jesus all the way spoke in parables .A person human level of understanding,regardless how interlectual he is,is not equal to grasping "spiritual truth"Jesus in Mat.11:15 says
He that hath ears to hear let him hear..
The same occurs for example in Rev.2:11

11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches;....
Here we have the ANGEL= THE SPIRIT!!

So coming to an end ,i declaire on my view(and I hope ,this view is coming from the spirit)that I will have no desire have such Eyes to see and such Ears to hear,for teaching a doctrine of future earthly events ,comings of New Earth,new Jerusalems an "THE ANTICHRIST" who is proclaiming himself a new Messiah...Destroing and burning People with fire,battle against a city with hundreds of millions soldiers who will be destroiyed by Godly fire..and so on..
TIME is AT hand.
The Revelation is a book of symbols and signs.everything written there we have to interpret acurate!
If we interpet like the letters are written, then INDEED future earthly events wil be the "MISINTERPRETATION" of that final Book of the GLORY of the holy Lord JESUS CHRIST..

I could write books of interpretations of this glorious Revelation,but in German Language!..My English is bad.So its very stressfull for me.But one thing is very clear for me.There will no destoying of THIS EARTH and killing hundred of million people ...and a following NEW APEARRANCE of a NEW EARTH and a NEW Jerusalem,but a NEW EARTH(NEW ORDER) and a NEW JERUSALEM( NEW CHURCH).Thats for sure!
Please Read

GEN.8:22
22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.

The Holy Spirit of GOD has NOT come to show us,what the world system is up to,He has come to "take the things of CHRIST and show them UNTO us.
it is Not to bless us of informations about Hitler,Saddam Hussein or Wladimir Putin or Isis,or whoever.We dont have to wait for daily TV News,what is happening in China,USA or Middle east!

We must be filled with the fullnes of GOD.We must be sealed in our FOREHEADS with the mind of Christ.Corrupt to uncorrupt,mortal must put on immortal.

THESE are things,which MUST!!! shortly come to pass!


Not the "ISLAM"
I declare and proclaim it in Jesus name...AMEN

Dear Brothers,I want to have friendship and peace with all of you.For every misunderstood Word I apologize with all of my heart.
The Kingdome of GOD is within us.It needs NOT to be coming soon.Its there its here,it stands in the scripture,that it is here and now.There is no second physically coming of Jesus Christ!!!Nothing will be seen by natural eyes

Luke 17:20 pp said it plainly and clear

20And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.
23 And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.


....Time is at hand to recognize that all

GOD bless you all.

You’re quite confused, Tom, and it has nothing to do with your native earthly tongue. You’re confused because you don’t understand the Heavenly language:

“We are of God. He that knows God hears us; he that is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:6 EMTV).

“He who is of God hears God's Words. Therefore you do not hear them because you are not of God” (John 8:47 MKJV).

You’re correct, however, that you aren’t an overcomer, which, by your own estimation, means you shouldn’t be teaching. You shouldn’t be teaching, however, because you haven’t even begun the journey to becoming an overcomer. You’re walking in the knowledge of doctrine and not the faith of Jesus Christ.

That’s why you not only are trying to teach, but insist that you know what you’re talking about to those who have overcome. And by eating knowledge rather than Christ, you behave presumptuously, arrogantly, and hypocritically. It all comes naturally to you. You need repentance

The time is at hand. That doesn’t mean prophecies aren’t fulfilled at specific times. The Bible is full of such examples. Isaiah spoke of a virgin bearing a son (7:14) and the Lord’s appearing in the flesh (chapter 53), which things were literally fulfilled centuries after being recorded. Yet the truth ministered from the moment being spoken until now. The time has always been at hand.

The revelation of Jesus Christ determines the “future history of the fleshly earth.” You are a fool to ignore and deny this, separating Heaven from earth, God from His creation, and the creature from His salvation.

The Lord said we who believe are as salt and good leaven, agents of His Kingdom that overcomes the world. Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, which Daniel interpreted by the Spirit of God, showed the kingdoms of men established over the ensuing millennia being felled and pulverized in the Day of the Lord. We are in that Day now. Satan has you spiritualizing away this truth and reality, but his day is over. We, the children of faith who have overcome by Christ’s victory, know and proclaim it to you.

You hope in vain that your view is coming from the Spirit and deceive yourself. You wrongly lump us in with the religious who promote sensational stories of the end times. And while in this manner you're adding to what we say, you don’t hear the truth that we do speak, discarding it instead and thereby losing your portion in the Book of Life.

“And if anyone takes away from the Words of the Book of this prophecy, God will take away his part out of the Book of Life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which have been written in this Book” (Revelation 22:19 MKJV).

Your time is at hand, Tom - right here – right now, because the Word of God is speaking to you.

Paul

this is a very poor answer dear paul.

If you really mean,that the Book of Revelation ist a history record somewhen in the future,then i really understand nothing and have indeed NO EARS to hear.
If you really think,that the graves will be open and dead physical bodies will raise up to heaven( which you apperently will find in our blue sky) and that all "so called believers ) will suddenly disappear in same way like the dead bodies....then you are realy "FULL IN THE SPIRIT.Vut there is obl yone Spirit in which you will find yourself..and zhaz spirit is of SATAN.its carnal,totaly carnal and and without any Thruth...

Your writing style is rude and as I mentioned on other topic...ABUSIVE and not in in one single word filled with "Love for your neighbor.

thats all I want to say...Unfortunately your Path of Truth ,is a Path of Satanic doctrins.
Wish all the best..

Indeed you have no ears for hearing or eyes for seeing, Tom. That explains how you so readily pervert what we say, even attributing things to us we haven't said. You walk in the corruption and spiritual deadness of your carnal mind.

"Jesus said to them, If you were blind, you would have no sin. But now you say, We see. Therefore your sin remains" (John 9:41 MKJV).

Paul

Paul,now its get very interesting.As far I read all your commends,I would really like to hear from you or Victor,what is meant by"The Day of the Lord"
I do not think that you can explain it to our ordiance..I can,You not,I am sure

But as I say formerly.
Guys like you 2 Victor and you,are that much cynic guys with all your subtil cynical abusing,that I not only will,but I am due to pray for you.
You have a wonderfull website! and also some topics you explain very well,but I better hear sermons from Joel Osteen than watching you 2 .

Your list of false prophet.Oh my GOD.What makes you sure that you both should not stand on top of that list?

Read the bible once more!!

"Will you judge them, son of man, will you judge them? Cause them to know the abominations of their fathers" (Ezekiel 20:4 MKJV).

"And you, son of man, will you judge, will you judge the bloody city? And you shall make her know all her abominations" (Ezekiel 22:2 MKJV).

"These are the things that you shall do. Each man speak the truth to his neighbor. Judge with truth and justice for peace in your gates" (Zechariah 8:16 MKJV).

"Do you not know that the saints shall judge the world? And if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels, not to mention the things of this life?" (1 Corinthians 6:2-3 MKJV).

It's true that you have no right to judge, Tom, but it's a lie that we don't have the right to do so. Indeed, we are appointed to judge and we're here to judge such as you, as Enoch prophesied millennia ago:

Jude 1:14-16 MKJV
(14) And Enoch, the seventh from Adam, also prophesied to these, saying, Behold, the Lord came with myriads of His saints,
(15) to do judgment against all, and to rebuke all the ungodly of them concerning all their ungodly works which they ungodly did, and concerning all the hard things ungodly sinners spoke against Him.
(16) These are murmurers, complainers, leading lives according to their lusts. And their mouth speaks proud things, admiring faces for the sake of gain.

Tom, is heedlessness and refusing to investigate and honestly evaluate what others are saying to you what you brand as love? Is a constant rant, despite the available evidence to counter your opinions a fruit of love? Is false accusation a conduct of love? Is stubbornness and ignorance "love"?Is pretending to serve Him Who is Love, "love"? Is loving other gods His love? You fool! (No, I'm not calling a brother a fool; be assured of that. We who are Christ's have nothing to do with you who pretend to be His.)

You've been taken over by a counterfeit spirit of love, one that is unreasonable, selfish, dogmatic, obdurate and frankly, pure evil. And none of these things we say to you will make a bit of difference to you because Satan and his angels aren't here for the truth; they are strictly here by nature to oppose truth.

You are a foolish, foolish man, Tom, having nothing to do with the Lord Jesus Christ, Creator of all things. Readers will see your contradiction; they see that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. You've fashioned your chosen version of being Christian and will consider nothing else. You've created God in your own image, carved your territory, put up your flag and presume to put it up on the Mount of God, as well.

It won't work, Satan. I rebuke you in the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Whom you pretend to love and serve. Take your flag, doctrine, straw men, ambitions, devices, presumption, pride and your false accusations elsewhere....

But not just anywhere - take them to the pit. We're not merely trying to get rid of you or stop our ears at what you've had to say. We have listened, heard, considered and spoken. For your sake (yes, yours), we have appealed to you to do the same for better judgment, but you stubbornly stick your index fingers in your ears and shout to drown out the voice of knowledge, understanding and reason by virtue of God's grace toward us and you, as well.

You don't know Who you're doing battle with, but you will. Not only will we not put up with your obstinacy here, I command that you be shut up from polluting anywhere else. You're done, Tom; your judgment has come. You are a fool looking for a place to proudly demonstrate your ignorance you call knowledge and foolishness you call wisdom.

Have we no right to judge? You repeat this mantra, using your pet verses to prove and press your point in your putrid self-righteousness. We offer context and what more the Scriptures have to offer but you refuse to consider.

One more stab for your sake: PAUL AND SARA, OR SOMEONE, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE THIS OBSTINATE, SELF-RIGHTEOUS, KNOW-IT-ALL SOUL REFERENCE TO WRITINGS OR LETTERS WE'VE COMPOSED OVER THE YEARS ABOUT JUDGMENT AND WHO HAS THE RIGHT AND DUTY TO DO SO?

Lord Jesus, Father, deal with this fellow's ungodliness he attempts to impose in Your Name. Let him see he destroys himself and pollutes Your universe. Let him know he has taken Your Name in vain. Amen.

Tom,

Here's some reading for you, but I also know you'll despise it, because you have been despising the Truth since you came to this board.

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/falsehood ... s-love.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/the-issue ... dgment.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and one more

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/the-issue ... logist.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Eric C.

Tom, Victor wrote:

"One more stab for your sake: PAUL AND SARA, OR SOMEONE, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE THIS OBSTINATE, SELF-RIGHTEOUS, KNOW-IT-ALL SOUL REFERENCE TO WRITINGS OR LETTERS WE'VE COMPOSED OVER THE YEARS ABOUT JUDGMENT AND WHO HAS THE RIGHT AND DUTY TO DO SO?"

Besides the links that Eric provided, here are a couple more:

Disdaining None, Judging All, for Good

The False Religious Love that Hates (Rejects) God

Tom sent us a couple other questions and objections on this topic. Here they are with our answers, which we provide for the sake of others who are listening and may learn:

"I cannot see that the book of Revelation is directly speaking to nations...What does this means? A spirit is telling something the nation?..Can you please descripe your understanding of the word NATION?"

Answer: We never said the Book of Revelation was written to the nations, which are the men of this world, but that it applies to them, as in the verses we supplied.

As for the nations hearing the Gospel and having access to the Word of God, that’s been ordained by God, and woe to those who oppose Him:

“...forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always; but the wrath has come upon them to the uttermost” (1 Thessalonians 2:16 MKJV)

“And He said to them, ‘Go into all the world and proclaim the Gospel to all creation’” (Mark 16:15 EMTV).

"So,everything in that book is symbolized.So,you CANNOT give the Islam the title ..The Islam is THE BEAST.. (May be I didnt understand what you mean with Islam is the beast)"

Answer: Why can’t Islam be the representation of a symbol in the Scriptures? Isn’t Islam a perfect representation of the man of sin, the beast unfettered by conscience or godliness, serving self alone while presuming to occupy the highest seat (“PBUH”) and destroying all competitors or whoever gets in his way, once he is done using them?

Saying Islam is the beast doesn’t nix the application of the principle of truth depicted by the symbol to others persons at other times.

"See Revelation 14:9-11

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man
worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or
in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured
out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be
tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and
in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they
have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and
whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

By the way, if ISLAM is meant to be the beast..Then put it in verse 9. (that
would sound strenge, or? I think so"

Answer (from Martin VanPopta): I don't think it would sound strange at all. Isn't that exactly what we're seeing now?

All these politically correct people surrendering themselves to Islam - aren't they worshipping Islam by making concession and allowance for their murder in the name of being open minded? Don't they obey Islam's demands and believe its lies? And haven't they received the same mark as Cain - the ugly smudge of false love and acceptance of all people without rejecting evil?

The Mark of Cain kept Cain and many others “safe from harm” so to speak, but now with the turn of the age the Lord is done with it. What better antidote for liberal/left wing/open-minded tolerant drivel than Islam. They're lovingly tolerating the murdering beheaders into their own homes. The Mark of Cain is no longer a shield from harm.

I think it fits very well with Islam. Like you say, Paul, it's a spiritual truth applying to all things.

tom4men wrote:Paul,now its get very interesting.As far I read all your commends,I would really like to hear from you or Victor,what is meant by"The Day of the Lord"
I do not think that you can explain it to our ordiance..I can,You not,I am sure...

We answer this, not because Tom asks (he has proven he won’t listen), but because people need to hear the answer.

"For you yourselves know well that the Day of the Lord comes like a thief in the night" (1 Thessalonians 5:2 HNV).

The Day of the Lord is when He comes to judge people, individually or collectively. Whether this judgment is for salvation or destruction depends on the response, which is predetermined by God. Those to whom He gives grace and faith receive Him and His correction, but scoffers like Tom are caught unawares and defy Him because He has hardened their hearts in order to destroy them in their sins. That’s what is happening here.

The Day of the Lord is when the Lord came to take away Israel, Jerusalem and the temple by the Romans; previously by the Babylonians. His Day comes when He’s fed up and no longer waits for a decision for bad or good, as with Sodom and Gomorrah or as when He comes as a thief while the steward thinks his master delays and gives himself to be drunken and to beat his servants.

Today is His Day when He comes to bring down the kingdoms of men, as prophesied by Daniel when interpreting Nebuchadnezzar’s dream (chapter 2). The whole world is being judged.

The Day of the Lord is payday, when the books are opened and people are judged according to their deeds.

Revelation 20:11-15 MKJV
(11) And I saw a great white throne, and Him sitting on it, from Whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And a place was not found for them.
(12) And I saw the dead, the small and the great, stand before God. And books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
(13) And the sea gave up the dead in it. And death and hell delivered up the dead in them. And each one of them was judged according to their works.
(14) And death and hell were cast into the Lake of Fire. This is the second death.
(15) And if anyone was not found having been written in the Book of Life, he was cast into the Lake of Fire.

2 Peter 3:7-13 MKJV
(7) But the present heavens and the earth being kept in store by the same Word, are being kept for fire until the Day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
(8) But, beloved, let not this one thing be hidden from you, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
(9) The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness, but is long-suffering toward us, not purposing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
(10) But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a rushing noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat. And the earth and the works in it will be burned up.
(11) Then, all these things being about to be dissolved, what sort ought you to be in holy behavior and godliness,
(12) looking for and rushing the coming of the Day of God, on account of which the heavens, being on fire, will melt away, and the elements will melt, burning with heat?
(13) But according to His promise, we look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Paul and Victor

Hi Victor and Paul,

Thank you for these words and your responses to Tom; very much appreciated.

Peaceful Sabbath.

Beryl.