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Subject: Your site
From: Bama Hippie
To: ask@thepathoftruth.com
Date: 3/9/2015 1:07 PM
Your site is humorous.
I love veiled self-promotion and back-patting, when you post letters, responses, counter-responses, etc to all of the various "false" teachers.
You are really showing those rascals, huh? Sounds real Christ-like. I'm sure He's proud. Or is that you that is proud?
Thanks for the laughs. But it will not be so funny for folks that believe some of your doctrines.
From: Paul Cohen
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 7:16 AM
To: Bama Hippie
Cc: 'Victor Hafichuk'
Subject: Re: Your site
Bama, you’re a liar. You don’t find our site funny - it greatly disturbs you, as well it should a mocker who is given over to the lusts of her flesh. Instead of finding help, like others do who come for the truth, you only add to your torment and hasten your destruction by venting bile and defending liars even you don’t believe.
Have you ever heard of turning away from your sin, Bama? Sin like hating without cause, lying, cheating, gossiping, falsely accusing, slander, stealing, jealousy, envy, dishonoring parents, masturbating, fornicating, porn and all your lusts? Is your Jesus okay with those things? Tell us he is and you’d be speaking the truth.
How about turning fully to the True One Who laid down and took up His life for you? How about getting honest with Him for the first time in your life?
Paul Cohen & Victor Hafichuk
http://www.ThePathofTruth.com
From: Bama Hippie
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 12:14 PM
To: Paul Cohen
Subject: RE: Your site
You don't know anything about me. Which was my point.
"Bravely" posting the things you do, on the world wide web, is not Christ-like. In the least.
I studied the way Jesus operated, and when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love.
Though you try to through darts at me, I still love you.
And He loves you infinitely more.
You know what Jesus did with sinners? He hung out with them. To the ridicule of the religious leaders and zealots of that day. They called Jesus a drunk, for crying out loud!
And if he had an internet forum to send a message to sinners, it would not look remotely like your reply below.
Maybe my mock was wrong. And at first, I had your site bookmarked as a resource. But the more I dug, site by site, and page by page, the more my spiritual antennae went up.
Your rhetoric is filled with the exact bile and lies that you accuse me of. Venom and hatred. You should be ashamed for representing the Lord Jesus Christ in such a way.
You sirs, are charlatans. You preach hate!
My God, my Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, while dealing with sin, they do so in love. You do so in hate. You move right on past hating the sin to hating the sinner.
My Jesus is NOT OK with those things.
Strange that your list "hating without cause, lying, cheating, gossiping, falsely accusing, slander, stealing, jealousy, envy" looks a lot like the venom I saw spewed on your website over and over again.
Matthew 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
You cannot even begin to be qualified to make some of the statements that you make, especially those that are outside the bounds of scripture.
So, in one respect, indeed, I was disturbed. Greatly. And it's not funny. It's sad. And everyone has their issues from time to time. But mine are not splattered all over the internet.
Masturbating... My my my...
Oops, now that I googled your names, I now see what a complete waste of time my response above is.
Wow, just wow.
From: Paul Cohen
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 8:19 AM
To: Bama Hippie
Cc: 'Victor Hafichuk'
Subject: RE[3]: Your site
Bama, have at it and eat your baby in the siege; there’s no other way.
Victor & Paul
A Sarcastic Sinner and Her False Jesus
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Rachel Gerrard
Re: A Sarcastic Sinner and Her False Jesus
You say you "studied how Jesus dealt with sinners". Why study? Has He not dealt with you so you would know first-hand how He deals with sinners?
Obviously not.
Obviously not.
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Emmanuel Okpanachi
Re: A Sarcastic Sinner and Her False Jesus
' "Bravely" posting the things you do, on the world wide web, is not Christ-like. In the least.'
How do you know that it's not 'Christ-like'? How do you know what Him or His servants - who are expressions of Him - would do in a particular situation? Do you know how He conducts Himself, and what He is really like? You speak as if you know Him. However, it's evident that you do not. And you're right, it's not 'Christ-like'. It's more than that. It's Him exactly. It's Him conducting and expressing Himself through the conduits that are His servants, Victor and Paul.
'I studied the way Jesus operated, and when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love.'
From your study of 'the way Jesus operated' you conclude that 'when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love'. Now, had you been there in the flesh, to witness the encounter between Jesus and the Pharisees, in which He called them hyprocrites, vipers, and fools; you certainly would have stepped in on the Pharisees' behalf and condemned His conduct. "How can you call them all those mean words? You are judging, and full of hatred!". Surely you would have seen Him as an unloving, rude, hateful, presumptuous, judgemental, inconsiderate know-it-all. If you view His servants as hateful and unloving, how much more would you attribute those things to Him who is their Master?
'It is enough for a disciple to be like his teacher, and servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!' (Matthew 10:25)
'My God, my Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, while dealing with sin, they do so in love.'
You have no understanding of true love, or what it looks like. You're only familiar with Satan's brand of love, which you yourself express. Your situation is a sad and tragic one indeed, but not without hope. Christ - whom you have never known - will at some point make Himself known to you, and then the scales shall start to fall from your eyes; at which point you will realise just how deluded you were.
How do you know that it's not 'Christ-like'? How do you know what Him or His servants - who are expressions of Him - would do in a particular situation? Do you know how He conducts Himself, and what He is really like? You speak as if you know Him. However, it's evident that you do not. And you're right, it's not 'Christ-like'. It's more than that. It's Him exactly. It's Him conducting and expressing Himself through the conduits that are His servants, Victor and Paul.
'I studied the way Jesus operated, and when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love.'
From your study of 'the way Jesus operated' you conclude that 'when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love'. Now, had you been there in the flesh, to witness the encounter between Jesus and the Pharisees, in which He called them hyprocrites, vipers, and fools; you certainly would have stepped in on the Pharisees' behalf and condemned His conduct. "How can you call them all those mean words? You are judging, and full of hatred!". Surely you would have seen Him as an unloving, rude, hateful, presumptuous, judgemental, inconsiderate know-it-all. If you view His servants as hateful and unloving, how much more would you attribute those things to Him who is their Master?
'It is enough for a disciple to be like his teacher, and servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!' (Matthew 10:25)
'My God, my Lord Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, while dealing with sin, they do so in love.'
You have no understanding of true love, or what it looks like. You're only familiar with Satan's brand of love, which you yourself express. Your situation is a sad and tragic one indeed, but not without hope. Christ - whom you have never known - will at some point make Himself known to you, and then the scales shall start to fall from your eyes; at which point you will realise just how deluded you were.
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Re: A Sarcastic Sinner and Her False Jesus
Emmanuel said
"How do you know that it's not 'Christ-like'? How do you know what Him or His servants - who are expressions of Him - would do in a particular situation? Do you know how He conducts Himself, and what He is really like? You speak as if you know Him. However, it's evident that you do not. And you're right, it's not 'Christ-like'. It's more than that. It's Him exactly. It's Him conducting and expressing Himself through the conduits that are His servants, Victor and Paul."
Easy read the scriptures. When Jesus was spat at He didn't spit back. He dealt with prostitutes, the tax man (Matthew), Roman soldiers, He went to the pub and He dealt with all graciously.
Emmanuel wrote
"From your study of 'the way Jesus operated' you conclude that 'when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love'. Now, had you been there in the flesh, to witness the encounter between Jesus and the Pharisees, in which He called them hyprocrites, vipers, and fools; you certainly would have stepped in on the Pharisees' behalf and condemned His conduct. "How can you call them all those mean words? You are judging, and full of hatred!". Surely you would have seen Him as an unloving, rude, hateful, presumptuous, judgemental, inconsiderate know-it-all. If you view His servants as hateful and unloving, how much more would you attribute those things to Him who is their Master?
'It is enough for a disciple to be like his teacher, and servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!' (Matthew 10:25)"
You take one lone example and you build doctrine around this. The Pharisees were the keepers of the Law and they misused it. The were self righteous hypocrites which are the worse kind of sinners. Never take scripture out of context. Jesus was gracious and loving to all but git a bit frustrated at the srlf righteous.
Emmanuel wrote
"You have no understanding of true love, or what it looks like. You're only familiar with Satan's brand of love, which you yourself express. Your situation is a sad and tragic one indeed, but not without hope. Christ - whom you have never known - will at some point make Himself known to you, and then the scales shall start to fall from your eyes; at which point you will realise just how deluded you were."
I am sorry but you are the deluded one. Satan has no love at all and he will quite happily see you dead.
"How do you know that it's not 'Christ-like'? How do you know what Him or His servants - who are expressions of Him - would do in a particular situation? Do you know how He conducts Himself, and what He is really like? You speak as if you know Him. However, it's evident that you do not. And you're right, it's not 'Christ-like'. It's more than that. It's Him exactly. It's Him conducting and expressing Himself through the conduits that are His servants, Victor and Paul."
Easy read the scriptures. When Jesus was spat at He didn't spit back. He dealt with prostitutes, the tax man (Matthew), Roman soldiers, He went to the pub and He dealt with all graciously.
Emmanuel wrote
"From your study of 'the way Jesus operated' you conclude that 'when he dealt with sinners, he did so in love'. Now, had you been there in the flesh, to witness the encounter between Jesus and the Pharisees, in which He called them hyprocrites, vipers, and fools; you certainly would have stepped in on the Pharisees' behalf and condemned His conduct. "How can you call them all those mean words? You are judging, and full of hatred!". Surely you would have seen Him as an unloving, rude, hateful, presumptuous, judgemental, inconsiderate know-it-all. If you view His servants as hateful and unloving, how much more would you attribute those things to Him who is their Master?
'It is enough for a disciple to be like his teacher, and servant like his master. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!' (Matthew 10:25)"
You take one lone example and you build doctrine around this. The Pharisees were the keepers of the Law and they misused it. The were self righteous hypocrites which are the worse kind of sinners. Never take scripture out of context. Jesus was gracious and loving to all but git a bit frustrated at the srlf righteous.
Emmanuel wrote
"You have no understanding of true love, or what it looks like. You're only familiar with Satan's brand of love, which you yourself express. Your situation is a sad and tragic one indeed, but not without hope. Christ - whom you have never known - will at some point make Himself known to you, and then the scales shall start to fall from your eyes; at which point you will realise just how deluded you were."
I am sorry but you are the deluded one. Satan has no love at all and he will quite happily see you dead.