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I'm new to this website and just starting to read through some of the articles, posts, messages and videos. I thank you for the sharing such a wealth of knowledge and truth but I have to ask - where is your love my friend? You know the scriptures well and I believe strongly in making sure that Truth is spread and know that some will not hear or understand it, but brother, the tone and central theme in most of your messages in this website lacks compassion, patience, kindness, and gentleness. You call many out and some rightfully so, but your words (which come from the heart) are judgmental - i.e. your letter to Kirk Cameron. Truth is so important and I know love does include the sharing and rebuking in truth but I also know Kirk Cameron has a passion to share Jesus with others and puts a sense of urgency in his message and does wonderful things for others that goes unseen by man but does it out of his love for God - shown through his love for others.

I leave you these scriptures and look forward to some dialog and realize that your knowledge and memorization of scripture will lend itself well in me just listing the scriptures vs writing them out.

A few scriptures come to mind: John 13:34-35; 1 John 4:8,12; Acts 20:28-30; Matt 7:15-20; Prov 3:3-4; 1 John 3:16-18; 1Cor 13:4-5,13

Jesus is the true way and he came to show us truth in love

Derek, how about not making assumptions or flattering me, but loving me, your neighbor, by copying those verses out in full so that I don't need to do it?

I apologize. I actually had to look a few of them up myself to confirm I provided the right chapters and verses. I believe it is a good practice to look up scriptures in your Bible because it allows me to see the context of His word. Its like a prized treasure not a burden.

Im a pretty simple person and my main point was that we need to be unified in Him. Not divisive. We should join together in unity with those who claim and share gospel of Jesus. They should see the fruit of the spirit in us. God bless you.

Apology accepted. I was spared what was likely needless work.

Question, Derek: Do you know who you're uniting with?

"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many will come in My name, saying, I am Christ, and will deceive many"
(Matthew 24:4-5 MKJV).

"For such ones are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Did not even Satan marvelously transform himself into an angel of light? Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves as ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works" (2 Corinthians 11:13-15 MKJV).

"Fake Messiahs and lying preachers are going to pop up everywhere. Their impressive credentials and dazzling performances will pull the wool over the eyes of even those who ought to know better. But I've given you fair warning"
(Matthew 24:24-25 MSG).

Are you sure you know what you're doing? as for love, what kind of love is it you're talking about? What have you been taught and by whom? Have you not known that nominal orthodox Christians have been taught the anti-Christ love?

Read http://www.thepathoftruth.com/falsehood ... /index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I should also remember to make another post if I have more to say, rather than editing what was already posted, if I wish to add more. Otherwise, as you see, you don't get the full message in your notification. So, check the Forum directly for "the rest of the story."

I read most of the link you sent.

While I love the knowledge of the scriptures and believe some of your interpretations are very authentic and accurate, I do not subscribe to the arrogant and self-righteous tone that is displayed. It is not a spirit of Christ.

There are many examples I could make my point with from your link, but for simplicity here is one:
Quote from this article:
"All religious works of the flesh, the visible churches and organizations of men, are fueled by the love of the beast". Had you left out the "visible churches and organizations of men" you would have had a true statement. However, God wants our light to shine.
"You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven." (Matt 5:14-16)

I don't disagree that some acts of giving and service are motivated by selfish desires and that is in fact our flesh that can lead us down that road. But to claim that "visible churches and organizations of men", meaning 'ALL' churches are fueled by the beasts is just a falsehood in arrogance.

To answer the questions in your prior post:
I'm united with brothers and sisters who love God, who are imperfect in our flesh, and who recognize that we are to love others, care for those in need, joyfully treat each other with kindness, gentleness, patience, and self-sacrificing love. I am united with those that pray together, fellowship together and worship together and who know that our mission is to go and tell others of the gift of love that our God offered us through the life, death and resurrection of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. This unity has helped those who are lost to recognize and know Christ's love for us. He has changed lives because of faithful servants.

Do I know what I'm doing? Sometimes. But I have a great guide who is patient with me and loves me and knows my heart. I love the Lord and I love the body of Christ. I am not perfect, but a work in progress as my sanctification isn't complete. I know he desires mercy and not sacrifice. He delights in my joy towards Him.
Victor, I have some good news for you as well, He loved you enough to send His only son to die on a cross so that you could be redeemed. Isn't that good news worth sharing? That's the love we should show towards others. I pray you will know this type of love and freedom from condemnation.

I like to learn from many of God's people, teachers and preachers. I too, recognized false teaching but it's by the living Word of God and the Holy Spirit that is in me that the discernment is given to me. Even Satan new the scriptures and fears the Lord.

“Truth is so important and I know love does include the sharing and rebuking in truth but I also know Kirk Cameron has a passion to share Jesus with others and puts a sense of urgency in his message and does wonderful things for others that goes unseen by man but does it out of his love for God - shown through his love for others.”

What “Jesus” is Kirk Cameron sharing, Derek? Is it the Lord and Savior of all men, or another Jesus with another gospel, which Paul the apostle says is “accursed” (Galatians 1:8-9)? Is Paul’s saying and judgment too harsh and unloving for you – do you disagree with the Word of God?

Kirk represents another Jesus and false gospel, which our posting proves by the Scriptures. Should you dismiss that proof solely on your opinion and a misapplication of the Scriptures that don't apply?

Here’s more proof that Kirk doesn’t represent the Lord Jesus Christ Who is testified of in the Scriptures and in our lives.

In 2014, Kirk urged Christians to celebrate Halloween, claiming it’s not a pagan practice but actually a holy observance:

“‘The real origins have a lot to do with All Saints Day and All Hallows Eve,’ the actor told The Christian Post. ‘If you go back to old church calendars, especially Catholic calendars, they recognize the holiday All Saints Day, with All Hallows Eve the day before, when they would remember the dead. That's all tied in to Halloween...’”

“‘Early on, Christians would dress up in costumes as the devil, ghosts, goblins and witches precisely to make the point that those things were defeated and overthrown by the resurrected Jesus Christ,’ Cameron continued. ‘The costumes poke fun at the fact that the devil and other evils were publicly humiliated by Christ at His resurrection. That's what the Scriptures say, that He publicly humiliated the devil when He triumphed over power and principality and put them under his feet. Over time you get some pagans who want to go ‘this is our day, high holy day of Satanic church, that this is all about death,’ but Christians have always known since the first century that death was defeated, that the grave was overwhelmed, that ghosts, goblins, devils are foolish has-beens who used to be in power but not anymore. That's the perspective Christians should have.’”

Can anyone professing the Name of Jesus Christ, Who shed His blood resisting sin and the powers of darkness, honestly justify sending their kids out in devil costumes to collect candy from the unbelieving world as a testimony to the Lord and Savior? Truly, how is the person who doesn’t know the Lord supposed to see His victory over death by your son showing up at his doorstep for “trick or treats” with a devil mask? Cameron’s argument for celebrating Halloween is so darkened, asinine and shameful. How can you equate it to the teachings and ways of the Lord exemplified by His servants in the Scriptures?

Derek, how does celebrating death show the Lord’s victory over death? That’s like celebrating the Lord’s victory over alcoholism by going to a bar to get drunk, or celebrating His victory over fornication by going to a whorehouse to copulate. How could one not be ashamed to even think, much less propose what Cameron does as giving glory to God? The one who thinks and speaks this way loves only himself and this present evil world - not the Lord Jesus Christ.

You’re judging Kirk after the flesh, by his appearance and apparent sincerity. Those things are deceitful.

And can anyone looking at “Christian” America today honestly say that demons aren’t holding sway, contrary to what Cameron proclaims? Where do we see the Lord’s victory in the churches of men, which are given over to “gay marriage,” honoring Islam, with many in bondage to pornography, gluttony, entertainment, sports, following the ways of the world and perishing in horrible sicknesses and tragedies, upholding doctrines of devils and hypocritically condemning others? If that’s victory over devils, what is defeat?

At the time Cameron spoke out in defense of Halloween, he was also promoting his movie, “Saving Christmas,” which defends not only keeping this manmade observance, but all its pagan practices. Movie reviewer Peter Sobczynski (http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/saving-christmas-2014" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) described it as follows:

“To his [Kirk’s] eyes, every gaudy symbol of the season that is putting Christian [a character in the movie] off has deep-seated religious roots, and only by venerating them in the most ostentatious manner imaginable can one be truly close to God. Take Christmas trees and Santa Claus, for example—even though such things are never mentioned in the Bible, Kirk uses cherry-picked Biblical details, a certain degree of extrapolation and no small amount of smugness (‘Last I checked, God made the Winter Solstice’) to prove his points with such stunning finality that Christian instantly realizes that he has been the jerk all along for ‘terrorizing’ his family by not realizing, for example, that the giant stack of presents under the tree can suggest the skyline of the new Jerusalem.”

Is this “The Way of the Master”? Are you aware, Derek, of what God has to say about this ungodly “holy-day”? Read: That Devilish Spirit of Christmas.

When I told Kirk that using the threat of “eternal torment” as a conversion fear tactic wasn’t Scriptural or Godly (neither does it lead to authentic conversions), he heard something that made him scramble for support from other religious “authorities,” looking for a way to refute the truth. Why? Kirk had no good reason to reject the lie that God is a torturer or liar Who is unable to fulfill His express will to make ALL things new and alive in Christ. (See the writings in The Restitution of All Things.) But because his works and righteousness were at stake, which meant the end of him, Kirk sought a way, any way, to save his life. Now we see where that has taken him – justifying and promoting the celebrations of devils, sin, and idolatry.

“For whoever will save his life shall lose it; but whoever shall lose his life for My sake and the Gospel's, he shall save it” (Mark 8:35 MKJV).

Derek,

Your false religious love has the same smell as the LGBTQ, it is a foul stench in the face of The Lord.

Dan Lysthauge

Derek, you say: "I don't disagree that some acts of giving and service are motivated by selfish desires and that is in fact our flesh that can lead us down that road. But to claim that "visible churches and organizations of men", meaning 'ALL' churches are fueled by the beasts is just a falsehood in arrogance."

If what you say is true of my "claim" or, using a better word, declaration, then the Lord is false in arrogance, for it is He Who has taught me these things, commanding me in March of 1976 to leave it all behind as I would leave behind my own dung. It's the same stuff the apostle Paul referred to in Philippians 3.

You offer me salvation as though I have never believed. Have you not red my testimony? Do so and then tell me you can still take that stance toward me. Also, tell me if you've had the similar experience in the Lord, not so much in the event but in Essence.

So if you insist on YOUR false gifts of wisdom and discernment, you'll surely succeed to destroy yourself in Satan's Last Stronghold: http://www.thepathoftruth.com/falsehood ... /index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;