From: Wayne Kraus
Sent: October-28-17 4:32 PM
To: Victor
Subject: Norman Grubb
Hi Victor,
I recently posted a favorable essay about Norman Grubb. It includes a link to your article about him. I believe my little post challenges your notion that Norman must have been a false teacher because he was popular.
Wayne
From: Wayne Kraus
Sent: October-28-17 4:33 PM
To: Victor
Subject: Norman Grubb
Oh yeah, here's the link
jacobboehmeonline.com/norman_grubb
"How do I enter into this union life," you ask? You already have. "In Him (Jesus) dwells all the fulness of the Godhead bodily and you are complete in Him." (Col. 2:9-10) "By one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified." (Heb. 10:14) If you do not experience completion and sanctification in daily living, it is because the false doctrine of separation from God has gotten lodgment in your mind. Believe what the gospel says about you, that you are a child of God (1 John 3:1), one spirit with Him (1 Cor. 6:17), partaker of the divine nature (2 Pet. 1:4), seated with Him in heavenly places (Eph. 2:6), king and priest (Rev. 1:6), more than conquerer (Rom. 8:7), perfect (Heb. 10:14), complete (Col. 2:20), holy and without blame before Him in love (Eph. 1:4), branch on the true vine (John 15:1), vessel of glory (2 Cor. 4:7), light of the world (Matt. 5:14), temple of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 6:9), filled with all the fulness of God (Eph. 3:19) and as He is, so are you in this world (1 John 4:17). If you have difficulty believing these things are true of you, it is only because what the religious world calls "humility" has gotten lodgment in your mind.
From: Victor Hafichuk
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 9:33 PM
To: Wayne Kraus
Subject: Re: Norman Grubb
Wayne, I didn’t post Norman Grubb as a false teacher merely on the grounds he was popular, although that is clearly one of the marks of a false teacher:
“And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men; but God knows your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God” (Luke 16:15 KJV).
Norman Grubb had many marks of falsity, not the least of them being that he would appear on the Robert Schuller scene, “Crystal Cathedral” and all, and give honor to a priest of Baal and Ashtoreth. Imagine Elijah going to a Baal worship service to preach Christ instead of exposing and having 450 of them slaughtered in one fell swoop.
You, Wayne, are a servant of Baal and Ashtoreth – foolish man. I hereby relegate you to your chosen confines of hell where you belong. You take on yourself the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ in vain, adding sin to sin. Woe to you. As He promised, He has not held you guiltless of such an offense.
Victor Hafichuk
A "Favorable Essay" on Norman Grubb by Wayne Kraus
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Re: A "Favorable Essay" on Norman Grubb by Wayne Kraus
From: Wayne Kraus
Sent: June-19-18 8:20 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: Norman Grubb
The Almighty must be getting kind of slapdash in His management of the universe if He has given you authority to consign people to hell. Doesn't He do background checks?
From: Victor Hafichuk
Date: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Norman Grubb - and Particularly Wayne Kraus
To: Wayne Kraus
So what YOU do and speak is authoritative, Wayne? You’ve determined to be the judge here and reject Jesus Christ’s Judgment by me.
But it so happens I DO sit on the Throne of the Lord, even as He has declared, Scripturally and confirming it to me personally. This is something entirely foreign to you, of course, because you don’t believe the Lord and you have only contempt for the Holy Scriptures.
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne” (Revelation 3:21 MKJV).
Having overcome, I DO speak by His Authority and Appointment. I AM His Mouthpiece speaking to you and I DO judge you by His Righteous Judgment, not by myself but with and in Him. And yes, with Him, I hold the keys of hell and death, as He has surely ordained:
“And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. And He laid His right hand upon me, saying to me, Do not fear, I am the First and the Last, and the Living One, and I became dead, and behold, I am alive for ever and ever, Amen. And I have the keys of hell and of death” (Revelation 1:17-18 MKJV).
Your day of judgment is here. You open your mouth and blaspheme and mock. Scoff, you will, but you’ll see whether or not these words come to pass on my behalf or not:
“Behold, I give out of those of the synagogue of Satan, those saying themselves to be Jews and are not, but lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you” (Revelation 3:9 MKJV).
Victor Hafichuk
Sent: June-19-18 8:20 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk
Subject: Re: Norman Grubb
The Almighty must be getting kind of slapdash in His management of the universe if He has given you authority to consign people to hell. Doesn't He do background checks?
From: Victor Hafichuk
Date: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:36 AM
Subject: RE: Norman Grubb - and Particularly Wayne Kraus
To: Wayne Kraus
So what YOU do and speak is authoritative, Wayne? You’ve determined to be the judge here and reject Jesus Christ’s Judgment by me.
But it so happens I DO sit on the Throne of the Lord, even as He has declared, Scripturally and confirming it to me personally. This is something entirely foreign to you, of course, because you don’t believe the Lord and you have only contempt for the Holy Scriptures.
“To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame and have sat down with My Father in His throne” (Revelation 3:21 MKJV).
Having overcome, I DO speak by His Authority and Appointment. I AM His Mouthpiece speaking to you and I DO judge you by His Righteous Judgment, not by myself but with and in Him. And yes, with Him, I hold the keys of hell and death, as He has surely ordained:
“And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. And He laid His right hand upon me, saying to me, Do not fear, I am the First and the Last, and the Living One, and I became dead, and behold, I am alive for ever and ever, Amen. And I have the keys of hell and of death” (Revelation 1:17-18 MKJV).
Your day of judgment is here. You open your mouth and blaspheme and mock. Scoff, you will, but you’ll see whether or not these words come to pass on my behalf or not:
“Behold, I give out of those of the synagogue of Satan, those saying themselves to be Jews and are not, but lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you” (Revelation 3:9 MKJV).
Victor Hafichuk
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Re: A "Favorable Essay" on Norman Grubb by Wayne Kraus
From: Wayne Kraus <wayneman999@gmail.com>
Sent: June-19-18 10:52 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk <victor@thepathoftruth.com>
Subject: Re: Norman Grubb - and Particularly Wayne Kraus
God made a big mistake granting you apostolic authority. He should have known when He handed you the Keys of Peter that you would exercise this authority recklessly and irresponsibly. You have consigned the entire human race to hell, except for your self and maybe a half-dozen of your buddies. God is not willing that any should perish, but now 7.5 billion people are going to hell and it's all God's fault for giving a crazy man authority over such things.
Sent: June-19-18 10:52 AM
To: Victor Hafichuk <victor@thepathoftruth.com>
Subject: Re: Norman Grubb - and Particularly Wayne Kraus
God made a big mistake granting you apostolic authority. He should have known when He handed you the Keys of Peter that you would exercise this authority recklessly and irresponsibly. You have consigned the entire human race to hell, except for your self and maybe a half-dozen of your buddies. God is not willing that any should perish, but now 7.5 billion people are going to hell and it's all God's fault for giving a crazy man authority over such things.
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Re: A "Favorable Essay" on Norman Grubb by Wayne Kraus
This fellow Kraus believes that only the original apostles were granted the powers I claim to have in the Lord Jesus Christ - a common falsehood propagated by a great many in nominal Christendom. How ignorant they are of the Scriptures and the power thereof, even as the Lord said of and to the Pharisees in His days in the flesh:
"Jesus answered and said to them, You err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God" (Matthew 22:29 MKJV).
And note how this guy gives no substance from Scripture. All he does is rant, accuse, condemn, criticize, and scoff. But I digress...
Here's proof that the Lord gives such authority to others as He did to the apostles. The words I quoted from Revelation were spoken by the Lord to John well after most, if not all, of the rest of the apostles, were dead. As well, He spoke them to the seven churches in Asia, meaning to the Gentile churches, and He promised this power and authority to all who overcame, none exempted.
But this prating fool can't receive these things because he prefers his sins, his gods, and lusts, his pride, and porn, his own kingdom and glory, instead of the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.
Have I, or am I, consigning the entire world to hell? You are a liar and false accuser, Wayne Kraus, aren't you? Your words and works are vile before God; you spew lies and falsehoods influencing others to believe them. Woe to you.
Yes, to the carnal man, I am a "crazy." The arrogant ones accused the Lord of the same things. And what happened to them in the end, Wayne? No different for you.
Your sins are retained. Because you say you see, your sin remains; that's how it is. And with sin, there can only be death and hell, so how can I be wrong?
"Jesus answered and said to them, You err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God" (Matthew 22:29 MKJV).
And note how this guy gives no substance from Scripture. All he does is rant, accuse, condemn, criticize, and scoff. But I digress...
Here's proof that the Lord gives such authority to others as He did to the apostles. The words I quoted from Revelation were spoken by the Lord to John well after most, if not all, of the rest of the apostles, were dead. As well, He spoke them to the seven churches in Asia, meaning to the Gentile churches, and He promised this power and authority to all who overcame, none exempted.
But this prating fool can't receive these things because he prefers his sins, his gods, and lusts, his pride, and porn, his own kingdom and glory, instead of the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.
Have I, or am I, consigning the entire world to hell? You are a liar and false accuser, Wayne Kraus, aren't you? Your words and works are vile before God; you spew lies and falsehoods influencing others to believe them. Woe to you.
Yes, to the carnal man, I am a "crazy." The arrogant ones accused the Lord of the same things. And what happened to them in the end, Wayne? No different for you.
Your sins are retained. Because you say you see, your sin remains; that's how it is. And with sin, there can only be death and hell, so how can I be wrong?
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Re: A "Favorable Essay" on Norman Grubb by Wayne Kraus
And by the way, to all those who overcame, the Lord also promised:
Revelation 2:26-29 MKJV
(26) And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations.
(27) And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter, they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father.
(28) And I will give him the Morning Star.
(29) He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Isn't that what is manifest as we speak? I have overcome and have kept the Lord's works to my end and He has kept His promise. Jesus Christ is Faithful and True. Glory to God!
Revelation 2:26-29 MKJV
(26) And he who overcomes and keeps My works to the end, to him I will give power over the nations.
(27) And he will rule them with a rod of iron, as the vessels of a potter, they will be broken to pieces, even as I received from My Father.
(28) And I will give him the Morning Star.
(29) He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Isn't that what is manifest as we speak? I have overcome and have kept the Lord's works to my end and He has kept His promise. Jesus Christ is Faithful and True. Glory to God!