Live Church?

[Lisa Rose]

Has anyone had any dealing with Live Church?

[Victor Hafichuk]

Send us whatever information you may have on the net like their site and FB page. Lord willing, we'll take a look.

[Lisa Rose]

Thank you for looking into this. https://www.life.church.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; I was volunteering for them online for live church Hosting and on the prayer team. I find them not Biblically sound. As a Theology Student, I was so excited to find a place that I could do God's work, but it is not that at all. I believe in following the Bible and it seems that there are lots of people out there that take one line and twist it into what they want.
I was just wondering if anyone else had any dealing with these people.

[Alan Agnew]

Lisa, did you actually mean, https://www.life.church/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ? The address you linked to has a security certificate issue. It's risky for others to bypass a security certificate issue unless we're sure their site is good in spite of it.

[Victor Hafichuk]

Lisa, were you meaning:

http://www.thepathoftruth.com/false-tea ... eschel.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?

[Tom Babcock]

We have returned from visiting friends we did not see before having to move here in a short time. It was eye opening. Then saw the item on false teacher Craig and was struck by the meaning of Luke 4:7 (Also Mat 4:9) which promises instant power and ruler-ship only by worshiping Satan once! the article on this false teacher further settled my own supposed instant conversion years ago, and filled me with pain at the knowledge of where my 'loving' friends really are. Thanks for the truth.

[Lisa Rose]

Yes, That is what I mean. I don't want to pick on anyone, but these people are far from being Biblical. They hooked me up to a leader for the Live Church part, where I was a Host. They started demanding my Facebook account, my messenger, and constant emails. Then the personality test.
I went toe to toe with them for a while on how they aren't Biblical. I really think that they border on being a cult. I was really wondering if anyone else has had any interactions with them?
At first, I was really excited to be able to be there for people on the prayer team, but the hosting thing really creeped me out. Especially I just finished a class on Revelation of Saint John.
I had someone approach me on how Live Church has a Pastor there that abused him as a young teenager. The family and the boy turned that person in and with evidence, and they still put him with a children's ministry. Can you believe it?

[Lisa Rose]

I thought that I would just add this information about Live Church. I received a message saying that the prayer team went from 7 prayer request to 1764 in one day. NOT KIDDING. I can send a copy of the information for anyone that wants this email. One can only wonder what is happening in this world that all of those came in on one day.
Needless to say, they decided that they would not answer them and delete them and send emails to the people that requested prayer will be deleted and we will pray over all of the emails at ONCE. Since when do we tell God, people want too many prayers.
Can you BELIEVE this? I have done the prayer request for people and let me tell you, some of these people are desperate, scared and need God so bad, not that we don't all do, lol. I am so dismayed at these people that call themselves a church.
When I do prayer team, I spend at least an hour praying and sending information and contact with that person. Those people that send in request know that, and some stay in contact with you.
I am truly heartbroken. These people have to be stopped.

[Ronnie Tanner]

Lisa, you asked if anyone had any interactions with Life Church. In response, Victor shared with you a paper on Craig Groeschel, the pastor of that organization. Did you read it, and if so, why do you still ask "can we believe" what is happening there?

Regarding the account you heard of one of their pastors, you say there was evidence. Do you have first hand evidence, with two or three witnesses of God to backup the accusations? How do you know you aren't just hearing and spreading lies, even if there is some truth involved? And if you don't know these things, why are you here sharing this on a public forum? And even if it is all true, what's your motive? I don't see you here to establish anything but your own righteousness.

You say, "I have done the prayer request for people and let me tell you, some of these people are desperate, scared and need God so bad, not that we don't all do, lol."

"Lol?" What is funny about needing God? You'd be far better off being one of the desperate, scared ones writing in for prayer. As it stands, they will be entering the kingdom of God long before you will.

You need to get off your high horse, sober up, and repent.

Read the following papers:

Confession of Sin
Repentance
Counterfeit Christianity
So You Want to Walk with Jesus

[Lisa Rose]

Lisa, you asked if anyone had any interactions with Life Church. In response, Victor shared with you a paper on Craig Groeschel, the pastor of that organization. Did you read it, and if so, why do you still ask "can we believe" what is happening there?

Regarding the account you heard of one of their pastors, you say there was evidence. Do you have first hand evidence, with two or three witnesses of God to backup the accusations? How do you know you aren't just hearing and spreading lies, even if there is some truth involved? And if you don't know these things, why are you here sharing this on a public forum? And even if it is all true, what's your motive? I don't see you here to establish anything but your own righteousness.

You say, "I have done the prayer request for people and let me tell you, some of these people are desperate, scared and need God so bad, not that we don't all do, lol."

"Lol?" What is funny about needing God? You'd be far better off being one of the desperate, scared ones writing in for prayer. As it stands, they will be entering the kingdom of God long before you will.

You need to get off your high horse, sober up, and repent.

Read the following papers:

Confession of Sin
Repentance
Counterfeit Christianity
So You Want to Walk with Jesus

You are so wrong. High horse? I don't know how you get on yours. I am glad you are able to judge my salvation, but I would love a picture as I am sure others would of your wrist and feet.

I may not have come across the way you feel is correct, but I don't see God anywhere in your post. Sorry if that offends you. God knows my heart, yes he does and God knows yours. For that, I can't stop praising him. Matthew 7:15 will hit a nerve on you that you will not like. You are an angry, bitter man.

I can see that this is not a place for me. For Greater is he that is in me, than the man that wrote this post that I replay to.

[Victor Hafichuk]

Lisa, you aren't glad at all that we can "judge your salvation." You lie as the liar you've been from the beginning, a slanderer and gossiper, murmurer; essentially, a murderess. You have no part in the Lord Jesus Christ.

The reason you're not thankful for what's happening here between us is because we ARE authorized to judge you, by His commission as confirmed by the Testimony of the Scriptures. But you don't know that because you are of your father the Devil.

Unless your righteousness goes light years beyond that of those who are full of religious zeal, show, and talk, you'll never see the Lord. Prostitutes and drunkards will handily precede you.

You've stumbled on the Stone and He has crushed you as one steps on a poisonous snake's egg. You've been judged, not in appearance, but in righteous judgment, even as He has commanded and enabled us. You're done, Lisa, lawless one. He says He has never known you.