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Andrew Murray

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 10:21 am
by Mike
I just read half of the scathing review on Andrew Murray and had to stop.
I have no need to defend Murray, God will be his judge. However, talk about self exaltation you seem to be the optimum offender. Who commissioned you to be judge and jury? I got the feeling that Murray's life was a reproach to you simply because you couldn't live up to his Christlikeness. Your exegesis on the passages that call us to conform to the image of Christ are skewed by your bias. Sorry but I think you need to read more Murray.
Mike Couch

Re: Andrew Murray

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:17 am
by Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
Have you heard the Lord's Voice, Mike? Has Andrew Murray ever claimed to hear the Lord's Voice? If so, are you taking his word for it?

God is Murray's judge, present tense, according to His Word spoken by us. Jesus Christ is here, but you deny Him.

“Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antiChrist, whereof you have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world” (1 John 4:2-3 KJV).

“The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt. They have done abominable deeds. There is no one who does good” (Psalms 14:1 WEB).

Have you now exalted yourself to judge us, Mike? You have your feelings and notions of Christlikeness, but we have the Truth.

Paul and Victor
www.ThePathofTruth.com

Re: Andrew Murray

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:16 pm
by Mike
Thanks Paul for your response. Frankly I never expected to hear from you.

There is only one thing I want to say. I think we are on the same side, I'm a born again Christian and have been for 40 years. I think our time would be better spent fighting our real enemies, Satan, Sin, and self. As for me I feel no need to attack a man of God like A. Murray or you even you. Let's build the kingdom and stop tearing done other God fearing followers of Jesus.

Peace and grace,

Mike Couch

Re: Andrew Murray

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:03 am
by Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
If we were on the same side, Mike, you wouldn't have come here condemning us and our true report of Andrew Murray, or call him a “man of God.”

You're building another kingdom, not the Kingdom of God. Your kingdom (and that of Andrew Murray) is uprooted to make way for His.

“Then His disciples came and said to Him, Do You know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this saying? But He answered and said, Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted shall be rooted up” (Matthew 15:12-13 MKJV).

Paul and Victor

Re: Andrew Murray

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:09 am
by Mike
Okay
This is my last response. I tried to send you an olive branch but you rejected my overtures. You two must be the only Christians on earth. Shalom

Re: Andrew Murray

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:27 am
by Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
Mike, genuine peace cannot be built on a foundation of sand. The Rock of Truth is imperative because it alone can prevail.

Nor can peace be established with mixture. Clay and iron don't mix. It was because of mixture that God destroyed the world by the flood. The weakness of mixture in these last days ushers in the destruction of the Daniel image of kingdoms. We are that rock cut out of the mountain without hands; we are here to bring down that image in this final day and to usher in the Kingdom of God.

We may not be the only true Christians on the earth, as even Elijah once thought, but our job isn't to be the only ones. Our job is to speak the unadulterated Truth so that others may hear and believe. We speak to the end that people will discern the difference between good and evil and be saved from the deceptive powers of sin and Satan's devices.

You need to know that error can appear so true and legitimate, even as the Lord said would be. So why don't YOU know that? You think we're cocksure of ourselves. How about you that you should position yourself to be our examiner and judge?

Victor and Paul