Dan Mohler--Believing men and not God

[Max]

Hello team,

I am part of a ministry called Betel and I'm dealing with people's problems all the time. One thing i have learned over the years is, to separate my mind and heart from THE TEACHER and THE TEACHING. I have not been to bible collage and i am not a great theologian but i know when a message from God spoken through a man can change somebody's life. I have seen it multiple times from so-called 'false teachers'... let's have it right, we are all false teachers and preachers because if we truly examine our hearts we all need Jesus to work deeper and deeper. It's bottomless!! And that's not to bring condemnations ...it's GOOD NEWS.. and there is the Holy Spirit working in us and THROUGH us. When 2 or more are gathered together I AM THERE - says Jesus. So the knowledge of the church and the congregation is a true manifestation of Christ because we are representation of his body. That is the knowledge of Christ spoken through his people who have a deep and meaningful relationship whit Him.

A quote from Dan Mohler's answer machine: "Hello this is the home of the Mohlers where Jesus Christ is lord, and if you call on Him right now you might not have to speak with me"...

If you want to label Dan Mohler a false teacher, it doesn't really matter. What matter is that HE is bringing people to the Lord through no longer him but CHRIST that lives within him (Galatians 2:20)...Same with me if it wasn't for God i would be dead by now...and i am dead indeed but in Christ i am very alive because He lives in me...in all my stupidity and daftness and all the errors and mistakes i make - He is there loving me and forgiving me even if I am totally deceived and worse...if I am %100 confident in my deception and I am sure that I am right - He is still there loving me. That's the beauty of the Gospel and the upside-down truth that it promises.

I don't really know Dan Mohler, I just felt urged to write to you because I think is very important for us as Christians to be united and not to cause any division among us because that is exactly what the enemy wants. Does Dan Mohler takes credit for himself instead giving all the glory to God...may be he does, I don't know. What I do know is that God can definitely use him to draw more people to Him, and that's what is important like I already said.

Please let me know what do you think.

Kind Regards, Max

[Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk]

“That is the knowledge of Christ spoken through his people who have a deep and meaningful relationship whit Him.”

“let's have it right, we are all false teachers and preachers because if we truly examine our hearts we all need Jesus to work deeper and deeper.”

You're confused Max, and speak for yourself. Not all are false teachers because they need Jesus to do a deeper work in them. How could we have a deep and meaningful relationship with Him yet be in the dark? Does He send out ministers who lack the wherewith to minister the Truth of His Gospel? Is that a statement of faith that glorifies God?

Matthew 12:33-35 MKJV
(33) Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree corrupt and its fruit corrupt; for the tree is known by its fruit.
(34) Offspring of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.
(35) A good man out of the good treasure of the heart brings out good things; and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings out evil things.

Contrary to your unbelief, we are good trees. We have Jesus and He has us. We lack nothing in doing His work, because we're not speaking our own thoughts or opinions - we're speaking the Word of God Who consumes us.

Why don't you recognize this? There's only one reason, given by the Word of God:

“We are of God. He who knows God hears us. The one who is not of God does not hear us. From this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error” (1 John 4:6 MKJV).

Dan Mohler and his teaching are one, just as we are one with the Lord and His teaching. We love Him with all our being - not just our minds or hearts.

“And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength” (Mark 12:30 ESV).

You haven't a clue what you're talking about, Max. You believe men and not God, starting with your own corrupt heart and mind.

Paul and Victor

[Max]

In my message you picked on the part in which you can actually put across your arguments and totally neglected the main point I was trying to make , which is that we are His people and He is our God! A tree..? A tree is recognised by its fruit, and when that fruit is the fruit of the spirit manifesting evidently in my life, nothing really can stop me of proclaiming the Good News of Jesus Christ and how he saved me from certain death. That my dear friends is what matter. Death to sin , alive to righteousness and pure life to the full with God himself living in me!

It never seizes to amaze me the deception that the enemy can bring among my fellow christians.Unfortunately you have totally missed what I was trying to say. I never said I was in the dark. All I was trying to say is that as my knowledge of Christ grows - more and more I understand how little I know...and realising the depth of the Gospel just fills me with joy and excitement.

I am in the lightest place I have ever been. I am from God, all men are from God....

Just by you guys sending me such an aggressive and defensive response builds my faith in Jesus Christ even more that I know exactly what I am talking about and recognise when someone is walking by the flesh and not by the spirt. I've done a small research on you guys. Doesn't it seems strange that you have all these arguments with other fellow christians?

Let me ask you something.. do you actually go to church? ...or you just read the bible and interpret it to suit you by doing an online research and watching the God Chanel on TV? The bible says that when 2 or more are gathered Christ is there... it doesn't says "when only 2 are gathered...."

You need Jesus guys, both of you. More than you can imagine and I will pray for you to receive the salvation that God is offering through his Son Jesus - God in Flesh.

Do not bother replying because I am not gonna bother reading. I know the truth, and the truth will always be the truth... the truth doesn't change! People change , even facts change. But the truth of the Gospel never changes.

God bless you and like I said , do not bother replying but seek counsel...

[Max]

P.S. Knowing the bible and firing scriptures at me don't help your case either. So again , don't bother..

[Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk]

Of course you never said you were in the dark, Max. Even declaring such a thing in your defense proves you've never known the Lord Jesus Christ, the Light of Men. You ARE in the dark, so how would you know? You can't see. And because you call your darkness “light” and say you can see, you're even worse off than those who make no such claims.

All men are not from God. Not all men have faith. God is not found in the churches of men, where Satan resides as an angel of light. You are clueless to these basic truths and touchstones of life, Max, in great delusion, and your organization is similarly blind. You literally travel land and sea to make proselytes that become twice the children of hell that you are.

Paul and Victor

[Max]

FYI , I'm not reading your nonsense. This is a copy of a text which you will receive every time you send me an email. You are not from the same spirit I am from, which is the spirit of God. There is some deep demonic powers that are working in your life and you really need Jesus to help you. You need to repent of your wicked ways and you need to come to the foot of the cross and really ask for forgiveness! I will keep praying for you !