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I want agreement on faith with t.p.o.t....

I read your readings on faith. I agree with it all. You may say that this whole entire article or (thinking) is pointless for me because my whole faith goes out the window when I am typing this. Henceforth, If i understand faith and know how to use it, I am able to direct myself to igniting faith yet again. I read somewhere that if we accept you as servants then why question? This is not a question but affirmation..

Is this a heavenly example of faith?

luke:9-13 9And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you. 10For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. 11If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? 12Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?


So lets say there is something I want from God. All of my intentions are lined up biblically same with motives.

So....I ask God, and I dont need to ask him twice he hears our Prayers! So if i ask God, all i need to do is wait in faith? this is correct?

and if i dont get what i wanted from God then i say, "thy kindom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven"

faith you operate on? When the bible says to believe this, you believe it!?
Although when your a believer your a believer.

Jesus says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

People are going to perform greater works then Jesus? John the baptist? this is correct??

And if we move on faith, then we can start performing these things?

thanks kjv for the bible

I'm answering your statements copied in red, Matthew:

"I want agreement on faith with t.p.o.t...."

Know that any meaningful agreement on faith can only come by agreement in the One Whom faith is found, the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Henceforth, If i understand faith and know how to use it, I am able to direct myself to igniting faith yet again. "

Faith isn’t something you use. You yield yourself to true faith, which comes from God and is according to His will.

“So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Romans 10:17 EMTV).

"I read somewhere that if we accept you as servants then why question? This is not a question but affirmation.."

You can only receive us as God’s servants if you receive Christ as Lord and do His will.

“Jesus therefore answered them, ‘My teaching is not Mine, but His Who sent me. If anyone desires to do His will, he will know about the teaching, whether it is from God, or if I am speaking from Myself” (John 7:16-17 WEB).

"So lets say there is something I want from God. All of my intentions are lined up biblically same with motives.

So....I ask God, and I dont need to ask him twice he hears our Prayers! So if i ask God, all i need to do is wait in faith? this is correct? "

Who is the judge of what you want from God, whether it lines up “Biblically,” and who is judging your motives?

If indeed anyone asks Him anything according to His will, we are told:

“And this is the confidence that we have toward Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of Him” (1 John 5:14-15 MKJV).

You don’t have to wait for something you already have.

"and if i dont get what i wanted from God then i say, 'thy kindom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven' "

Yes. “Yet not My will, but Yours be done” (Luke 22:42 MKJV).

"Jesus says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

People are going to perform greater works then Jesus? John the baptist? this is correct??

And if we move on faith, then we can start performing these things?"

Yes, but what do you think these greater works are? What couldn’t the Lord do during His incarnation – the One Who healed the sick, raised the dead, and did many miracles?

"thanks kjv for the bible"

What are you saying here?

Paul

Paul Cohen wrote:Faith isn’t something you use. You yield yourself to true faith, which comes from God and is according to His will.

“So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God” (Romans 10:17 EMTV).

Amen, Paul!

Paul Cohen wrote:If indeed anyone asks Him anything according to His will, we are told:

“And this is the confidence that we have toward Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of Him” (1 John 5:14-15 MKJV).

You don’t have to wait for something you already have.

Amen again! Just the verses that came to mind while reading this. God is outside of time. We may not immediately see it, but He has granted it!

hello,,,,,

Yes, but what do you think these greater works are? What couldn’t the Lord do during His incarnation – the One Who healed the sick, raised the dead, and did many miracles?

your answer is in red....

I asked....

People are going to perform greater works then Jesus? John the baptist? this is correct??

It seems like you answered my question already with "yes", So indeed we are going to do greater works then Jesus speaking from what the Lord has said....

Now from this point of view on my end it seems there could be two motives to your question on what do you think these works are?

1. your testing me.

2. Or your trying to figure out if i know the truth or not.

I would ask for you to pick one.

Also we do greater works because we have the opportunity of living longer then the Lord did on earth giving us more time to save people from their sins, heal the sick, eyes to the blind, and make the lame walk.

Obviously we arent saving anyone but the decision to go out is what i am saying.

When you ask at the very end.

What are you saying here?

I assume you immediately think I am a threat. In reality I do want to know if this website is biblically sound. And if the church is really pharisee like, can we heal the sick? make people walk? heal the blind? talk to God? etc. etc. all through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Matthew, you write:

"It seems like you answered my question already with 'yes', So indeed we are going to do greater works then Jesus speaking from what the Lord has said....

Now from this point of view on my end it seems there could be two motives to your question on what do you think these works are?

1. your testing me.

2. Or your trying to figure out if i know the truth or not.

I would ask for you to pick one. "

Neither. I simply meant what I asked: What do you think those greater works are? I want to know what you see in the Lord's promise so I can possibly help you and others who are reading this thread.

As for my last question, "What are you saying here?" - you assumed wrong again. I was asking about your sign off:

"thanks kjv for the bible"

I have no idea what this means and I'm sure others reading here won't as well.

Paul

I assume you with your letters that you also think that the bible has been changed or messed with.

I declared that my scripture i was using was from the kjv.

i believe that the kjv bible is the best for those who dont want to translate from greek.

you say,"Neither. I simply meant what I asked: What do you think those greater works are? I want to know what you see in the Lord's promise so I can possibly help you and others who are reading this thread. "

I think these greater works involve everything that Jesus has done besides the obvious, die for our sins etc..

I believe we can heal, prophecy, cast out demons and yes they are active. And probably more but i don't wish to spend time thinking about these needs right now.

although, am i right when i say we can do these things today?

I have another question for you?

Jesus said 70x7 forgiveness.

Do you believe since the holy spirit/God is in us that we automatically forgive our brothers on the spot? It seems my heart quickens if i slip? Or do you think if there is strife you tke it upon yourself to make peace with your brothers and sisters?

I have another question? Have you healed before? It seems like someone with your understanding or knowledge has certainly figured the question of healing today?

another question: can you hear from God? or Victor? If i ask something?

thanks

I assume you with your letters that you also think that the bible has been changed or messed with.

Very little - we cover this extensively in How We View and Use the Scriptures.

I declared that my scripture i was using was from the kjv.

i believe that the kjv bible is the best for those who dont want to translate from greek.

Not always. Read the section I just referred to.

you say,"Neither. I simply meant what I asked: What do you think those greater works are? I want to know what you see in the Lord's promise so I can possibly help you and others who are reading this thread. "

I think these greater works involve everything that Jesus has done besides the obvious, die for our sins etc..

I believe we can heal, prophecy, cast out demons and yes they are active. And probably more but i don't wish to spend time thinking about these needs right now.

although, am i right when i say we can do these things today?

Jesus said the one who believes in Him would do those works you refer to plus GREATER works. What are the greater works?

"Truly, truly, I say to you, He who believes on Me, the works that I do he shall do also, and greater works than these he shall do, because I go to My Father" (John 14:12 MKJV).

I have another question for you?

Jesus said 70x7 forgiveness.

Do you believe since the holy spirit/God is in us that we automatically forgive our brothers on the spot? It seems my heart quickens if i slip? Or do you think if there is strife you tke it upon yourself to make peace with your brothers and sisters?

Jesus told His followers to forgive before they had received the Holy Spirit. Indeed, He said unless we forgive we shall not be forgiven.

We take nothing upon ourselves. We walk in faith and do as the Lord commands and gives us to do. You presume to have His Spirit but don't. This leads to much troubling and confusion. You need to repent.

I have another question? Have you healed before? It seems like someone with your understanding or knowledge has certainly figured the question of healing today?

another question: can you hear from God? or Victor? If i ask something?

We figured nothing out. We have what we have by faith and revelation through the grace of God in Christ. You don't know Him.

If He wills, you may ask and He will answer us if we ask. But He is already answering you here and you don't believe.

Paul

Thank you for your time I'd like your guys to read my last post if you don't mind. I hope the aloud blesses you guys though. Paul says I'm happy the bible is being preached even out of ignorance I think the word is used. I'm saying you guys are preaching in a different manner but with people being troubled here I stand by what Paul says and say I'm happy still thanks

Matthew, you are sloppy in your mechanical, mental, and spiritual communications. There's much confusion. However, if you think you have more spiritually than we can offer or help you with, then do go your way. We're not here to feed the full, heal the well, or to compete with you or anyone else.