Chuck Missler is not infallible so one must make their own determinations

Many say one can’t judge whether another believer, particularly one presenting him or herself as a teacher of God, is of God. Poppycock! Of course they can be discerned – and must be. Should your spiritual welfare be entrusted to a liar? God forbid. Jesus said you WILL know them by their fruits.
Brad

Chuck Missler is not infallible so one must make their own determinations

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Hey guys. No offense but you all have gone off the deep end. God the Father commands us in scripture to study His word. One can spend a lifetime doing just that(as Chuck has done) and continue to learn more about God the Father and Jesus His Son. This of course includes an understanding of salvation in Jesus Christ but God didn't deliver 2000 pages of scripture to us, to learn just that. To understand otherwise is just foolish.Chuck is not infallible so one must make their own determinations as to where he might be incorrect about something. You guys are actually the ones that are grossly off track with your criticisms here. Man oh man.

Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk

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You say, “Chuck is not infallible so one must make their own determinations as to where he might be incorrect about something. You guys are actually the ones that are grossly off track with your criticisms here. Man oh man.

So when we “make our own determinations as to where he [Chuck] might be incorrect about something,” you condemn us for doing as you advise? How contradictory and foolish is that?

And have you studied the Scriptures all your lifetime so that you can make a true judgment? There are many who study the Scriptures all their lives and are just as in the dark as when they began. You are quite deluded, friend, so in the dark.

John 5:39-44 WEB
(39) You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and these are they which testify about Me.
(40) Yet you will not come to Me, that you may have life.
(41) I don't receive glory from men.
(42) But I know you, that you don't have God's love in yourselves.
(43) I have come in my Father's Name, and you don't receive Me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him.
(44) How can you believe, who receive glory from one another, and you don't seek the glory that comes from the only God?

And we are not “guys.” We're messengers of the Lord Jesus Christ, sent to reprove the works of darkness and tell people their sins. And you are a scoffer:

“Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts” (2 Peter 3:3 KJV).

2 Timothy 3:1-9 WEB
(1) But know this, that in the last days, grievous times will come.
(2) For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(3) without natural affection, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, not lovers of good,
(4) traitors, headstrong, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God;
(5) holding a form of godliness, but having denied its power. Turn away from these, also.
(6) For some of these are people who creep into houses, and take captive gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts,
(7) always learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
(8) Even as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so do these also oppose the truth; men corrupted in mind, who concerning the faith are rejected.
(9) But they will proceed no further. For their folly will be evident to all men, as theirs also came to be.

Paul and Victor

Brad

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You're missing my point guys. You have not come into an understanding of God's incomprehensible grace and love that He and His Son Jesus has for us. Chuck has dedicated his life to the study of scripture and my sense is that you all are directing anger towards him because he may be wrong in his understanding of certain things. I have learned in my 30+years as a believer that we are all wrong in certain areas of who God and His Son are and what Their plan is for mankind. The difference is, I believe God has given me a level of discernment when people's criticisms are steeped in legalism and pride. I know you all will probably reject this observation but I have no doubt that Chuck is sincere in his pursuit of trying to come into a deeper relationship with our Creator. To believe he has some hidden agenda is misguided. Cheers.

Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk

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The difference is, I believe God has given me a level of discernment when people's criticisms are steeped in legalism and pride. I know you all will probably reject this observation but I have no doubt that Chuck is sincere in his pursuit of trying to come into a deeper relationship with our Creator. To believe he has some hidden agenda is misguided.

You don't know that God properly prepares His man for ministry; no pulling a fleece off; it's there, genuine and intact, naturally grown, unlike the fleece a wolf wears. So much for your discernment.

We never said or claimed that Chuck (we presume you're speaking of Missler, the only “Chuck” on our site) has a hidden agenda. We never said he wasn't sincere. He is sincerely wrong, which we prove by the Word of God. He doesn't recognize his own nature. So your Opinion is wrong and you are anti-Christ by insisting you know better than the Truth.

You're a liar, Brad, a son of Satan in all his pride and glory, which are both soon to be extinguished.

Paul and Victor

Brad

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Paul. I have seen many like yourself and Victor through-out my 30 years of being a believer. You guys misrepresent God in a very profound way by not understanding His grace and mercy. Plus, God has obviously not revealed much to you all about His timing of things and plan for mankind. You both no doubt believe that this life for all mankind is a "turn or burn proposition" and God relegates those who don't convert in this life to an eternal life of hellfire.Funny thing is, all you guys believe the same thing. I have seen it literally hundreds of times. Cheers.


Brad

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Not man made at all Paul. Wow. You guys are really something.

Paul Cohen

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Have you even looked at the writings, Brad? Or have you looked and now are more confused than ever?

Paul

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