There is an oh so gentle and appealing appearance of light, love, kindness, and understanding that comes in the Name of Christ, yet conceals a heart of darkness that strengthens the hands of the wicked in the paths of the destroyer. Woe to those who follow her in her ways, who love their sins and lies more than the Truth! Marva Dawn, you have much blood to answer for, and answer you shall!
Ms. Dawn,
One of your charges, Brad Fitzpatrick, has been in touch with us regarding my request for removal of a vile pornographic manual on homosexual sex from the Helena, MT library (see Notice Board – September 2008).
Brad wrote this to me after the second hearing taking testimony on the decision to keep the book on the shelf: “How is it you can call yourself a Christian, yet you judge others for their life choices? You prey on the weak of spirit, and pull them into your skewed teachings….”
What have you been teaching Brad that he does not know homosexuality is an abomination to God? What have you been filling his mind with, that not only does he not know or respect God’s Laws, but he considers anyone who teaches Them to be an adversary to Christ’s followers, which he thinks himself to be, with your assistance? Jesus said something very different about the teaching of God’s Commandments:
“Therefore whoever shall relax one of these Commandments, the least, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But whoever shall do and teach Them, the same shall be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven” (Matthew 5:19 MKJV).
You not only relax the Commandments – you outright despise Them. And you have the audacity to call what you do “[equipping] both professionals and lay persons for deeper Bible study and more active involvement in Christian life and ministry”?!
Read our entire correspondence with Brad; behold the evil fruit of your works, and know this: You have been one wicked woman, a witch teaching rebellion against God, justifying vile sins that bring death, all in the Name of Christ, Who shed His blood to free humanity from death’s bondage. There isn’t anything more despicable than what you do.
You strengthen confused fools like Brad in their destructive ways to glorify yourself. You are a thief and great scoundrel, a Jezebel teaching many to commit fornication. You have much blood on your hands and will answer to God for every bit of it.
Paul Cohen
Dear Mr. Cohen,
Perhaps you should read what I actually say about homosexual behavior in my book, Sexual Character, before you call me a witch and Jezebel, a thief and great scoundrel.
God’s peace to you,
Marva Dawn
Ms. Dawn, what you have written about sexual morality only serves to confirm that you are indeed a Jezebel and a witch, a thief and a great scoundrel in the sight of God. I will prove it from your published words. Whether you will hear me out or not, be certain that we will publish this so others may know the difference between good and evil.
Just on the basis of your reply, without saying a word about what you believe, you have already proven you are the things I have said of you.
You do not answer for the evil fruits manifested by your protégé, as laid out for you in my correspondence with him. You do not mention him or what you have done to him, though this is the heart of the issue and the substance backing the description of your stance and attitude that you contest. All you care about is yourself and your stinking reputation (it does stink in Heaven). The one you leave in the ditch, deceived and destroyed, does not matter to you. You may affect great concern for your charges, but you show who is number one with you, and it is not God or your hearers.
How can this be? How is it that the lawlessness of your protégé does not concern you? The apostle Paul wrote about your deceitfulness and its cause:
“And then the lawless one will be unveiled, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth, and will destroy by the brightness of His coming, whose coming is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and in all deception of unrighteousness among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved” (2 Thessalonians 2:8-10 EMTV).
How does it matter what you wrote in your damned book (I mean that literally) if, as a result of your mentoring, Brad Fitzpatrick defends sexual deviancy and sin while attacking ministers of the gospel of Jesus Christ? Do you really think that your book will reveal anything other than the same evil fruits?
You saw how I debunked the lies Brad learned from you, by the Spirit of God and His holy Words of Scripture. You do not acknowledge His Words in your defiance. You focus instead on defending yourself based on your words, which you think justify you. Your fruits tell the real story, though your words damn you, too.
While you pay lip service to modesty and abstinence in the name of “Christian virtues,” you effectively teach that one can be Christian and homosexual. You tell homosexuals they ought not to commit their perverse acts, but you do not preach wholesale repentance from calling themselves what God says is an abomination. You leave the root in the ground while telling the plant not to produce fruit. This is confusion, an unholy mixture that is truly abhorrent to God. You lay unbearable burdens on others (don’t commit homosexual acts, but be a homosexual) while thinking and acting as if you are a worthy saint doing God great service. He vomits at the sight of you and your work.
Look at Brad, your handiwork. He clings to his homosexuality in the Name of Christ, as you have wickedly taught him. You ought not to be speaking of there being homosexual Christians any more than one could speak of there being adulterous or thieving Christians. Those yet in their sins (and those who defend fornication and homosexuality are also in their sins) are not in Christ. The apostle Paul writes:
“Or do you not know that unjust ones will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be led astray, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous ones, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor plunderers shall inherit the Kingdom of God. And some of you were these things, but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the Name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11 LITV).
The Christians in Corinth who had been homosexual were homosexual no longer. They were washed from their sins and regenerated by the Spirit of God. They were new creatures in Christ! You and your associates are Christians in name only. You have never been washed from your sins or made new creatures. You have been led astray, and you lead others astray. This is according to your testimony and the testimony of your fruit.
Those in Christ have experienced repentance from sin and communicate to others that God is willing, faithful, and able to deliver, cleanse, and heal from all sin, to save them from their sins, being their Savior. They do not teach others that they are what they are and must remain what they are, fallen creatures doomed to sin, with no change in this world, just a certain amount of coping. That is Satan the liar’s message. He is the god you are serving.
The Lord God Creator we know and serve is holy and pure, “separate from sinners” (Hebrews 7:26). You preach another “Jesus,” one joined to sinners. He is a moral weakling that serves you – the moral giant and shining example to all, who presumptuously sits on the throne of God. You direct your “Jesus” to absolve those who do not repent and forsake their sins, calling it grace rather than the lawlessness and iniquity it truly is. You are a top notch servant of the whore, Mystery, Babylon the Great, who, as false religion, deceives those who love their sins. You, Marva Dawn, are drunk with the blood of the saints, of whom Mystery has been the persecutor and murderer. As one with her, you also have much blood on your hands:
“And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all those who were slain on the earth” (Revelation 18:24 MKJV).
As we review your words, it is apparent that the problem is not that you don’t know that homosexuality is sin; the problem is that you do know, yet still sanction and encourage it while speaking as if you do not. You try to have it both ways because you seek the favor of man, not God. You are a double talking man-pleaser. It was for such hypocrites and false friends of God that Christ had His harshest words, just as He has had towards you by us.
I quote from your book, Is It a Lost Cause?:
“…we must warmly say that our Christian communities heartily welcome homosexual persons to dwell with us in the grace and forgiveness of God…. We do not believe that one’s sexual orientation is one’s complete identity; we do believe that our primary character is our status as the beloved of God, that we are all sinners in his sight, but saints by virtue of Christ’s redemption.”
All those who confess and forsake their sins are welcomed by God. If we walk in the Light as He is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another. But if you are walking as a homosexual, you are not walking in the Light. You cannot forsake your sin and retain it at the same time. Let us contrast your stance with that of the apostle Paul:
“But now I have written to you not to associate intimately, if any man called a brother is either a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a reviler, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such a one not to eat” (1 Corinthians 5:11 MKJV).
We saw on Paul’s list of converted sinners in Corinth that there were also some who had been homosexuals. Paul was writing to tell those renewed in Christ not to associate with another going by the Name of Christ who was still called a homosexual or a fornicator or an idolater. It is all one. Yet here you are, not only eating with such, but welcoming them with open arms into your midst and lauding them as the household of God. You are no different than they are, an unrepentant sinner having nothing to do with Christ except in pretense. You are worse, in fact, because you are teaching them to commit fornication with your strange god, as Jezebel did.
You say, “We are all sinners in his sight, but saints by virtue of Christ’s redemption.” Sounds good; or does it? This is a false gospel that has some truth with deadly poison mixed in.
Are we not all sinners? Yes, we are, but no longer are we sinners in His sight once forgiven and cleansed by Christ. God does not see us this way because we are no longer this way, if we have been born of Him:
“Everyone who has been born of God does not commit sin, because His Seed remains in him, and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God” (1 John 3:9 MKJV).
And: “Blessed is the man to whom the LORD shall by no means impute sin” (Romans 4:8 EMTV).
We are not two things at once, as you suggest. As it is written:
“By this the children of God and the children of the devil are manifest: Everyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God…” (1 John 3:10 EMTV).
And: “Does the fountain send from the same outlet sweet and bitter water?” (James 3:11 BBE)
Jesus said: “Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree rotten and its fruit rotten; for a tree is known by its fruit” (Matthew 12:33 EMTV).
What you are saying of yourself and your hearers is that while remaining in your sins you are deemed saints by virtue of Christ. This is a great lie from the pit of hell, from where you have emerged to pose as an angel of Light. But to you and your proselytes, Christ now says, “I never knew you: Depart from me, those of you working lawlessness.”
In the true Light, one can see how insidious your lawlessness is, as expressed in these two passages from your book:
“The Church must say, gently and compassionately, that the Scriptures and almost all of Church history (until the last twenty years) unequivocally agree that homosexual acts manifest humanity’s rebellion against God (see especially Romans 1:18-32, together with 1 Cor. 6:9-11, 1 Tim. 1:10, Lev. 18:22; 20:13)….”
What is this? The Church, you say, is now having second thoughts on whether those Scriptures are true? That is not the Church, the true Assembly of Christ, of which you speak. Those of His true Assembly speak as He does, the One Who does not change and does not send mixed signals:
“But as God is faithful, our word unto you was not ‘Yes and no’” (2 Corinthians 1:18 EMTV).
You are talking about the other church, the false one I have already identified you with, Babylon the Great. She is not called a whore for nothing, prostituting God’s words to allure more victims into bed with her. You teach rebellion against God’s Commandments, which the prophet Samuel said is the same as witchcraft. You are a thief because you usurp the position of the Head, thinking to change the Law of God, with which you are familiar and quote. Does this not also make you a great scoundrel?
You move on to the clincher:
“Finally, the Christian community must say that the issues are not yet resolved for all time; we can give no definitive answers to all the issues. Because we are fallible human beings, the Scriptures contain so little on the subject, because many homosexual person claim that they experience grace in the middle of their committed relationships, the Church must always be ready to listen, to consider again, to seek the Holy Spirit’s guidance afresh on the matter.”
How very wise and godly of you! The judge will take testimony from the thief on the joys of stealing, and perhaps that will change his mind on its wrongness. Jesus said not one iota of the Law would fail, but Marva Dawn says we must not be saddled with His inflexibility. “Come drink stolen waters, they are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant.” But your guests do not realize they are in the depths of hell (Proverbs 9:18).
The Scriptures say that every way of a person is right in his or her own eyes, but God judges the heart. You say that we should pay heed to what each person experiences, taking their word for its value and validity. “Let men be true and the Unchangeable God change His Mind,” you say. You are not in agreement with the Scriptures because you are not in agreement with God, because you insist you are right though you have not turned from your sins. You serve yourself and the flesh of all men. You do not confess Jesus Christ coming in the flesh, the Law of God incarnate reigning within these vessels of clay. You are antiChrist.
You are one with sinners because you are a sinner, a wholly unrepentant one at that. The worst part of it is that you present yourself as holy and pure. You damn others to perishing in their sins while you remain lily white in your supposed sainthood. That is vile. You deny the Lord and condemn His saints who preach against sin and have this Commandment from Him:
“Do you not know that your bodies are the members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them the members of a harlot? Let it not be! Or do you not know that he being joined to a harlot is one body? For He says, The two shall be one flesh” (1 Corinthians 6:15-16 MKJV).
The apostle Paul speaks eternal truth when by the Spirit he exhorts all saints:
“Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. And I will receive you and I will be a Father to you, and you shall be My sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty” (2 Corinthians 6:17-18 MKJV).
But what is unclean to him and to God is acceptable to Jezebel.
The Lord is separate from sinners in order to save them. The same applies to His sons and daughters. We are the saviors of sinners; you are their destroyer. Thus it is written:
“But to the wicked, God says, What is it to you, to declare My Precepts, and to take up My Covenant in your mouth? Yea, you hate to be taught, and you toss My Words behind you. When you saw a thief, then you were pleased to be with him, and you have taken part with adulterers. You give your mouth to evil, and your tongue frames deceit” (Psalms 50:16-19 MKJV).
Paul Cohen