These two teachers bear little resemblance to one another superficially in what they preach and do, but underneath it’s the same spirit of the prince of this world at work, giving the people the illusion of choice.
Hello, I have read some of your site, and agree with most of the things I have read thus far. I began by reading your correspondence with the JW. I love your knowledge of the Bible because as a fairly new Christian, I am still reading, learning, and trying to comprehend The Word.
I also started looking through your list of false teachers. I have always believed Joyce and Joel should be avoided, for the reasons you stated. Anyone that is as widely quoted as Joel, and never once is God or Christ named…or Heaven, Hell, Satan…the list goes on and on, cannot be someone preaching my Lord’s word. Sure, it makes people more likely to listen, but it isn’t teaching anyone anything about salvation, which is the Gospel, the Word…it actually makes me sad because, while I know it is not the main goal, he could be bringing so many people to Jesus. But instead focuses on ratings.
I am sorry for rambling. I am sure you find this boring. I have an actual point. There are two men I am interested on knowing whether or not you find them to be false. I am sure they will be obvious to you, but as I said earlier, I still have so much to learn.
I will also say, I have been told I have a "sarcastic way" about me, so I apologize if it seems I am mocking you or if I am coming across condecendingly. I am in no way sending this with anything other than sincerity and a desire to learn. Thank you. For any time you take to read and/or reply.
The two men are Bill Schnoebelen and Todd White. Thank you so much, even just for reading.
I hope you have a beautiful day,
Fahren
Hi Fahren,
We didn’t find your letter boring or sarcastic. We take you at the plain meaning of your words. Regarding your question about Bill Schnoebelen and Todd White, they aren’t ministers of Christ. They’re self-appointed ministers – deceived and deceiving those who follow them in their man-glorifying ways.
Of course they say some true things; all false teachers do. Satan comes as an angel of light, quoting Scriptures and speaking as if he is the Word of God revealed, even with His power and authority:
“For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will give miraculous signs and wonders in order to seduce, if possible, even the elect” (Mark 13:22 MKJV).
Two documents we recommend are The True Marks of a Cult and Diabolical Doctrines. These will give you objective measurements to work with. Above all, however, you need to know that being kept from error comes by walking in the light you’ve been given. Without faith and obedience, knowledge is useless and worse, as James writes:
James 1:21-25 EMTV
(21) Therefore laying aside all filthiness and abundance of evil, in meekness receive the implanted Word, which is able to save your souls.
(22) But become doers of the Word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.
(23) Because if anyone is a hearer of the Word and not a doer, this one is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror;
(24) for he observed himself and has gone away, and immediately forgot what sort of man he was.
(25) But the one who looks into the perfect Law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one shall be blessed in what he does.
Better not to know than to know and not do.
“And that servant who knew his lord’s will and did not prepare, nor did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he not knowing, and doing things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomever much is given, of him much shall be required. And to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more” (Luke 12:47-48 MKJV).
Do you have specific questions about either of these teachers? Consult with the writings I’ve given you, and if you don’t find your answers there, or if new questions are raised, let us know.
Thank you so much for reading and replying. I will read the documents you mentioned. Thank you again, so much.
Here are some other indicators of falsehood you’ll find at these men’s websites:
Todd White: At Todd’s site – http://lifestylechristianity.com – I see that he asks for money (Money Solicitation).
He also talks up love, but not repentance, the cross, or true holiness (So You Want to Walk with Jesus).
The main statement on his homepage:
“Our mission statement of the gospel is to become love so that wherever we go, people want what we have!”
Did people look at Jesus and say they wanted what He had? Who wants to take up the cross and be hated by all men? Jesus was despised and men hid their faces from Him, as prophesied in Isaiah 53. None were motivated by the kind of love Todd is doling out.
If anyone wants what the Lord came to give us, eternal life, that means coming to the cross and dying, something no person naturally wants to do. The natural man wants the goodies without paying the price. That’s what we see with Todd. He attracts men with the honey of false love (see False Love – Satan’s Last Stronghold), which is an empty promise of salvation without the cross.
Here’s what the Lord said people will see in His disciples:
“By this all shall know that you are My disciples, if you have love toward one another” (John 13:35 MKJV).
People know God has visited them because they see believers who love one another, not believers who gush over unbelievers in a gaudy demonstration of affection and affectation. And here’s the Lord’s description of the love believers have towards one another:
“This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. No one has greater love than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. You are My friends if you do whatever I command you” (John 15:12-14 MKJV).
The love of Christ is to obey Him, laying down one’s life for Him and His people. A demonstration of this is the life of His servant Paul, who taught us that Christ’s people are His Body.
Todd White is building on another foundation, “another Jesus,” and not the Sure Foundation of the Lord Jesus Christ Whom we preach at The Path of Truth. No matter how many gather to him, Todd is like a spark of fire falling on an empty beach, soon extinguished.
We watched Todd being interviewed by another false teacher at our site, Patricia King, and it’s readily apparent they’re birds of a feather.
Bill Schnoebelen: At Bill’s site – http://www.withoneaccord.org – he also asks for money (Money Solicitation).
While he doesn’t make as big a deal about love as Todd does, he, too, is a proponent and practitioner of false love. His teachings also bypass repentance, the cross, and true holiness (So You Want to Walk with Jesus).
Bill presents himself as a former Catholic, Mason, witch, magician, Satanist, and Mormon, who can inform you about many of the ways of these groups, ostensibly to keep you from practicing them.
Your time would be far better spent learning the truth in Christ and being converted by Him, if you believe. As one person described the process of training counterfeit money detection experts, they learn their trade by mainly handling the authentic article. Then they can discern a bill that is not genuine.
As a Jew, when I became a believer, I didn’t study what was wrong with the so-called Judaism I learned as a child. God immersed me in the Truth of His Son instead, shedding light on everything I needed to know when I needed to know it.
The Lordship of Jesus Christ is foreign to Bill. He knows “another Jesus.” What he teaches is just another kind of spiritism, this time taking the Lord’s Name and presenting it as the pure faith of God. If what Bill preached was from God, then he wouldn’t be teaching errors like The Trinity, Jewish Worship Practices Are Important to Keep, Hebrew Names for God, and The King James Authorized Version Is the Perfect Word of God.
If Bill knew the Lord, he wouldn’t credit Wiccans (witches) as he does: “Most of them are very sincere spiritual seekers, even as we were 25 years ago.” Yes, and look where Bill is now. He may have a form of spirituality with certain powers, but it’s not from the Lord Jesus Christ. Sincerely seeking spiritual things isn’t the same as sincerely seeking the Truth. Bill found something, but it wasn’t the Lord.
“For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they lure through the lusts of the flesh, by unbridled lust, the ones who were escaping from those who live in error; promising them liberty, they themselves are the slaves of corruption. For by whom anyone has been overcome, even to this one he has been enslaved” (2 Peter 2:18-19 MKJV).
How can we find a man wrong who preaches repentance and the cross of Jesus Christ? He’s wrong because he preaches a false repentance and illegitmate representation of the cross, coming from a false Jesus conceived by man. Here we show a defender of Todd White how Todd perverts the words of the Bible and creates a false spiritual life for himself and his followers.