“Preacherdog,” the question is not what we're saying so much as how you understand what we're saying, to whom, and why.
GOD IS THE ULTIMATE JUDGE ON ALL OF THESE MATTER. MY ORIGINAL PREMISE IS THAT YOUR CRITICISM IS OFTENTIMES UNWARRANTED. I'M ALL FOR DEFENDING THE FAITH, BUT YOU SHOULDN'T SLAM PEOPLE FOR MINUTE AND INSIGNIFICANT ERRORS. YOU COME ACROSS, JUST AS YOU HAVE IN YOUR RESPONSE TO ME, AS IF YOU ARE THE ONLY TRUE SPOKESMAN FOR GOD IN THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD. SORRY, YOU ARE JUST ONE OF MANY OF GOD'S LOWLY SERVANTS.
You believe you're defending “the faith,” but what faith is that? Is it the one once delivered to the saints or is it another? Do you really know? How is it you can't hear what we're saying? And why aren't you honestly, attentively, prayerfully reading the links we've given you?
I AM WELL ACQUAINTED WITH "THE FAITH" OF THE PURE GOSPEL OF CHRIST, FROM THE INCARNATION, TO THE DOCTRINE OF PROPITIATION, TO THAT OF THE GLORIOUS COMING AND KINGDOM OF OUR BLESSED LORD. ONCE AGAIN, YOU ACT AS IF YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE WITH YOUR ARMS AROUND SOUND DOCTRINE. AND WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOUR ONLINE POSTS ARE WITHOUT ISSUE? AND WHO SAID I DID NOT "HONESTLY" READ THE LINKS YOU HAD GIVEN? WHAT YOU ARE REALLY SAYING IS THAT IF HAVE ANY SORT OF ISSUE, OR CRITICISM, THEN I AM THE ONE WHO MUST BE AT FAULT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY BE WRONG, NOT EVEN A LITTLE. BY THE WAY, ALL THE CULTS RESPOND TO CRITICISM IN THIS MANNER.
There is a false universalism that deceives many and there is the true Biblical doctrine of the Lord Jesus' shed blood at the cross being so efficacious that it cannot fail but to bring total reconciliation of all men and things to Himself. This we teach by the Scriptures, by revelation, and by Godly reason.
THERE IS NO VALID DOCTRINE OF UNIVERSALISM, REGARDLESS OF THE VERSION. AT THE END OF THE AGE THE TARES WILL BE SEPARATED FROM THE WHEAT AND CAST INTO A FURNACE OF FIRE. MANY UNBELIEVING SINNERS WILL SUFFER EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION FROM THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD BECAUSE THE RECEIVED NOT THE LOVE THE TRUTH, THAT THEY MIGHT BE SAVED. THE BIBLE IS QUITE CLEAR ON THIS MATTER.
As to Satan, if he has no hope of reconciliation to God then what makes you think you ever did? If God's grace could work on you, why can't it be potent enough to work on rocks and devils, if the Lord chooses (and He does)? Is it because you think you were righteous enough to choose - something rocks and devils would never do? Think again.
YOU ARE LEANING ON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING AND FABRICATION WHEN IT COMES TO THIS MATTER. THERE IS VIRTUALLY NOT EVIDENCE PRESENTED IN THE BIBLE IN REGARDS TO THE ULTIMATE RESTORATION OF SATAN.
If slaves to sin can and must be redeemed by a Higher Power, by an External Savior, even though they've been so wicked, how can you think Satan will never be purged and purified in the Lake of Fire that burns with “brimstone,” that is, sulfur, a purifying agent?
ONCE AGAIN, APART FROM YOUR OWN HUMAN COMMENTARY (OR THE COMMENTARY YOU HAVE ADOPTED FROM SOMEONE ELSE), THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT SATAN WILL BE REDEEMED. THE BIBLE DOES NOT TEACH THIS. IT DOESN'T EVEN HINT TO SUCH AN IDEA OR CONCEPT. AND THE LAKE OF FIRE IS CLEARLY DEPICTED IN THE BIBLE AS A PLACE OF PUNISHMENT, NOT SOME PURIFYING AGENT. THAT IS A MOST ABSURD PREMISE. WHEREVER THIS IDEA CAME FROM, IT DID NOT COME FROM THE SPIRIT OR WORD OF GOD.
We have been “deficient and worthy of severe correction,” Pastor Pete, and He began His judgment with us decades ago and continued for decades before we were assigned to bring it to others. How about you? Where's your “severe correction,” the baptism of fire?
NOT SURE WHAT YOUR TRYING TO SAY HERE. IT'S A LOT LIKE COMMENTARY YOU'VE DIRECTED AT OTHERS. IT DOESN'T FIT. THE DAY I BELIEVED ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST I ENTERED INTO THE NO-CONDEMNATION STATUS OF ROMANS 8:1. I BECAME A CHILD OF GOD VIA SPIRITUAL ADOPTION. SINCE THAT TIME WHATEVER "JUDGMENT" HAS BEEN DIRECTED TOWARD ME HAS BEEN IN THE CONTEXT OF GOD'S PATERNAL CARE OF MY LIFE, WITH THE INTENT OF ENLARGING MY CHARACTER AND DEEPENING MY SPIRITUALITY. HE WHO BEGAN A GOOD WORK IN MY LIFE WILL FAITHFULLY CONTINUE THAT WORK BY HIS SPIRIT UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.
Let us ask you: Just who IS in the family of God, “Preacherdog”? To have a handle like that by whatever origin and for whatever purpose tells us you remain with those compassing Him about on the cross according to His Psalm. Aren't you being presumptuous to be questioning us?
JUST WHO IS IN THE FAMILY OF GOD? THERE YOU GO AGAIN WITH YET ANOTHER UNWARRANTED CHALLENGE. GOOD GRIEF, THE BIBLE IS QUITE CLEAR THAT (A) WE BECOME THE CHILDREN OF GOD BY FAITH IN JESUS, AND (B) ONLY GOD TRULY KNOWS THEM THAT ARE HIS. WE CAN BE FOOLED. WE CAN BE DUPED BY THOSE WHO MIMIC THE THE CHRISTIAN FAITH BUT DO NOT POSSESS THE SPIRIT OF GOD. MY ORIGINAL CRITICISM OF SOME OF YOUR COMMENTARY WAS THAT YOU SEEM TO THINK YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON FAITHFULLY ARTICULATING THE TRUTH. BUT THE TRUTH IS THAT YOU ARE NOT THE SOLE PERSON IN THIS WORLD WHO LOVES GOD, OR THAT UNDERSTANDS THE GOSPEL, OR WHO IS BEING USED OF GOD. BUT YOU SEEM TO ENJOY BEATING UP THE MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN FAMILY, THAT IS, THE FAMILY OF GOD.
AND YOU ARE GOING TO ALSO PICK ON MY HANDLE "PREACHERDOG"? THERE IS A HUMOROUS STORY BEHIND THIS TITLE, BUT I WILL SPARE YOU THE DETAILS. THE ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT YOU EXTREMELY ARROGANT, PROUD AND JUDGMENTAL TO SAY THAT IT SOMEHOW IMPLIES THAT I AM TO BE COUNTED AMONG THOSE WHO GATHERED AT THE CROSS OF JESUS AND RAILED AGAINST HIM, ACCORDING THE PROPHETIC PSALM.
AM I PRESUMPTUOUS TO BE QUESTIONING YOU? ONCE AGAIN, YOU SOUND LIKE A CULT. THEY ALL PUT FORTH THAT PREMISE. NO, I'M NOT BEING PRESUMPTUOUS, JUST HONEST. AND ALL I WAS SAYING FROM THE BEGINNING IS THAT YOU OFTENTIMES CRITICISM GOOD PEOPLE, AND FOR PETTY REASONS. AND THE IRONY IS THAT YOU ARE GUILTY OF TEACHING A FEW THINGS THAT ARE GROSSLY UNSCRIPTUREAL. YOU BASH FRANCIS CHAN FOR SOME COMMENT THAT HE MADE REGARDING GOD'S WILL FOR HIS PERSONAL, TREATING IT AS SOME HORRENDOUS DOCTRINAL ERROR, AND YET YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM TEACHING THAT SATAN WILL ONE DAY INHABIT ETERNAL GLORY AND JOIN THE SAINTS IN ARTICULATING THE PRAISES OF GOD.
No nitpicking here, but “who has despised the day of small things”?
YES, YOU ARE NITPICKING. PREACHERS AREN'T PERFECT PEOPLE, AND NEITHER ARE YOU. SOMETIMES THINGS AREN'T EXPRESSED EXACTLY AS THEY COULD BE. AND WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SERIOUS DOCTRINAL ERROR HERE. BUT YOU SEEM TO ENJOY PICKING PEOPLE APART, AND JUST FOR THE SAKE OF ENLARGING YOUR WEBSITE. BUT ARE YOU REALLY IN THE BUSINESS OF EDIFYING THE BODY OF CHRIST? BY ALL MEANS, BOLDLY CONFRONT APOSTATES, COUNTERFEIT CHRISTIANS AND FALSE TEACHERS, BUT STOP SLAPPING AROUND THE MEMBERS OF YOUR FAMILY. IT'S NOT RIGHT.
WELL, I'M OFF TO LISTEN TO A MESSAGE BY OUR DEAR BROTHER, JOHN MACARTHUR, JR. HE'S ONE OF THOSE CHILDREN OF GOD YOU ASKED ME TO IDENTIFY EARLIER.
SEE YOU IN HEAVEN, WHERE WE WILL BOTH CAST OUR CROWNS AT THE FEET OF JESUS. JOHN MACARTHUR TOO!