Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Many say one can’t judge whether another believer, particularly one presenting him or herself as a teacher of God, is of God. Poppycock! Of course they can be discerned – and must be. Should your spiritual welfare be entrusted to a liar? God forbid. Jesus said you WILL know them by their fruits.

Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Postby Mike » Tue Nov 15, 2016 2:01 pm



Just read your webpage painting Chuck Missler as a false teacher. Your rebuttal offered no evidence of false teaching or false doctrine that I could find. I've studied the bible for over 20 years and have seen Chuck's video & printed material. While some of his material gets speculative(in his own admission) regarding the scientific makeup of the creation, I've seen no evidence of false teaching or deception when it comes to biblical doctrine and you are wrong on this point. Chuck has probably done more than anyone I'm aware of to encourage study of the bible and in an uncommonly selfless manner at great cost to himself. I obtained nearly all his material online for free. If you have such disagreement with his teaching, I assume you contacted him directly to discuss the matter first as the Lord instructs before you began steering the helpless newcomers away from such a danger.
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Re: Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Postby Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:40 am



Mike, didn't the Pharisees and scribes have good doctrine, believing in the resurrection, witnessing, attending the Temple, fasting, praying, giving alms, the afterlife in the spiritual, and so forth? You're making the mistake of judging by doctrine alone, according to your interpretation and understanding of the Bible gleaned from men and not from God. Look again and you'll see that the Missler article is entitled: The Manifest Fruits of Falsehood.

We identify those fruits, but those focused on the doctrines they hold sacrosanct (along with the preachers of them), can't see the fruit or the tree it comes from. That's you, Mike, and you will thank us someday for telling you so.

By the way, there is bad leaven in Missler's doctrine, which we alluded to and gave two writings serving as guidelines for discernment according to the Word of God. Did you read them?

The True Marks of a Cult
Diabolical Doctrines

Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk
www.ThePathofTruth.com
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Re: Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Postby Mike » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:05 am



I said I studied the bible, not the doctrines of men and God has equipped me well enough to do so. However, He has also called others to gain understanding in many areas and it is not wrong to take guidance from their study provided it leans on scripture and you lean on the Holy Spirit to know what is heresy and what is not. All are not the eye, or the hand or the feet. God said “prove all things” & “hold fast to that which is good”. He also said “My sheep will know My voice”. Failure to utilize the study of others is in part why great moves of the Spirit die out and the church effectively resets every generation to labor building existing foundations.

Yes, I read as much as cared to of your attachments and was not surprised to find a sympathy toward another self-appointed guardian of biblical truth, Hank Hanegraaff. Someone who often relies on his “pail of orthodoxy” (whatever that is) rather than the scriptures. It was the traditions of men that made the word of God no effect in the days of the Pharisees and no different today.

All I saw in your first link were references to supposed plagerism which could have been missed citation references. I assume you contact Chuck before branding him some kind of phony and false teacher. Even if intentional it was a sin not false doctrine. From what I know of Chuck Missler, he is a teacher only and not someone who sought to establish doctrine of any type. He has his preferrences on some interpretations but is open & honest when delving into any realm of conjecture , often making clear when multiple views are commonly held. I never encountered anything that contradicted and area of sound biblical doctrine. If you have concrete examples of this “bad leaven”, then forward them, otherwise don't hold your breath waiting for a thank you. You don't know anything about me or my background and it's entirely pompous for you to make the presumptions you did.

Mike
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Re: Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Postby Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:17 am



You red our paper and see “sympathy” towards Hank Hanegraaff, Mike? Have we not told you you're blind? We know much more about you than you do about yourself because we know the Lord Jesus Christ and you don't.

Paul and Victor
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Re: Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Postby Mike » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:03 am



If you knew the Lord Jesus Christ you would also know your bretheren and not call them blind. You made accusations against Chuck Missler and I asked you for concrete examples of “bad leaven” in his teachings. None were provided so it would seem you are likened unto a large empty vessel giving off much sound for its lack of content.

Mike
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Re: Your rebuttal of Chuck Missler offered no evidence of false teaching that I could find

Postby Paul Cohen and Victor Hafichuk » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:24 am



Concrete examples of bad leaven in Missler's teachings have been right in front of your nose all along, Mike. But you can't smell as well as can't see - you're as insensate as your idols. Here are three examples from the writing you say is devoid of proof:

1) Missler teaches the false doctrine you inquired about - that of the nature of women's participation in the congregation of God [Women Are Ministers of God in Spiritual Authority over Men]. Do women teach men or not? Do they hold positions of authority over men or not?

2) What is the fruit of a false teacher? It is destruction and death. What's happening with Chuck's wife Nancy and his son Mark? Are they not financially well off? But while they live, they both suffer and are dying of cancer. What does God say to His people about dreadful diseases?

“And He said, 'If you will carefully listen to the voice of the LORD your God, and will do that which is right in His sight, and will give ear to His Commandments, and keep all His Laws, I will put none of these diseases upon you, which I have brought upon the Egyptians; for I am the LORD Who heals you'” (Exodus 15:26 MKJV).

“For the LORD God is a sun and shield; the LORD will give grace and glory; no good thing will He withhold from those who walk uprightly” (Psalms 84:11 MKJV).


[God Heals Today, His Way]

3) Twice was Missler reported to be plagiarizing. What man of God copies another writer's materials and puts his own name on them?

[http://calvarychapel.pbworks.com/w/page/13146663/missler-plagiarism]

Do we condemn them for their awful circumstances? NO! We would want to see them repent and be healed! But they condemn themselves with false piety, by taking the Lord's Name in vain. What does the Lord say about that?

“You shall not take the Name of the LORD your God in vain. For the LORD will not hold him guiltless that takes His Name in vain” (Exodus 20:7 MKJV).

So continue on and take your punishment, Mike, which you prefer in your stubborn wickedness to the Truth.

Paul and Victor
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